I used to run only in Kinvaras. Now I also have some Freedoms, Libertys, Rides (all Saucony) that I wear. Just curious for Kinvara wearers, what type of runs do you use them for? Would you ever use for a long run?
I used to run only in Kinvaras. Now I also have some Freedoms, Libertys, Rides (all Saucony) that I wear. Just curious for Kinvara wearers, what type of runs do you use them for? Would you ever use for a long run?
When I was marathon training, I would use them for all long runs, tempos, strength/speed work. So 3x a week. The other days would be easy runs in something more plush like the cortana or triumph.
I used to do all runs in Kinvara 6. Now I do quality sessions in typeA and use Kinvara 9 for easy runs only. They feel heavy.
Same..Its really a jack of all trades shoe. Ive done every type of run distance from 2 mile to marathon.
Good shoe.
How many miles do you all normally get out of them?
saucony user wrote:
How many miles do you all normally get out of them?
I wear them for all runs and easily get 800+ out of them.
saucony user wrote:
How many miles do you all normally get out of them?
250 max.
as a Kinvara fan, I use mine for almost anything, but now reserve them for easy days to marathon pace. Nothing faster, I use flats for faster paces
Saywhat2 wrote:
saucony user wrote:
How many miles do you all normally get out of them?
250 max.
Maybe if you are heavy and/or have an inefficient stride (not an insult, just a fact). If you are efficient and light, there is no need to get new shoes every 2-3 weeks. Just plain silly.
Switched to the Kinvara 9 at the end of track season (whiching from the Nike Pegasus 34). I love the shoe. I use it for all my training runs. Easy days, tempos, long runs, intervals, etc. It's a great shoe. Right now I'm at a little over 400 miles on it.
On a side note. I had a question. I am a heel striker and have noticed decent wear on the outer heel of the shoe but not as much anywhere else on the shoe. Any ideas on whether this is bad or not and if I should look at replacing them within the next 2-3 weeks (120-180 miles)? In the past, I've been stupid about my shoes and put 1100-1200 miles on them before replacing them (big hole-type of wear in the outheel and wear across the ball/toes toe area of the shoe). Any idea on if that where pattern is ok or not? Tried looking it up but couldn't find anything on it.
If it helps, I am a decent HS runner (4:29/9:29 guy) roughly 5'9" 130lbs. Bumping up to 60 now next week and. Maintaining that through the season.
250-300 seems right to me. I land pretty far on the outside of my foot so I do get some quick wearing in that area. 800 seems high for pretty much any shoe.
saucony user wrote:
250-300 seems right to me. I land pretty far on the outside of my foot so I do get some quick wearing in that area. 800 seems high for pretty much any shoe.
I get this response a lot on here and wonder if it is from experience or if people are just conditioned to believe this. I have never had injury problems or felt like I’ve “killed” a pair of shoes. The other guy I run with also wears Kinvaras and puts more miles on his than I do. He is 44, still runs 100 mpw and has 0 lifetime injuries.
DistanceRunner68 wrote:
Switched to the Kinvara 9 at the end of track season (whiching from the Nike Pegasus 34). I love the shoe. I use it for all my training runs. Easy days, tempos, long runs, intervals, etc. It's a great shoe. Right now I'm at a little over 400 miles on it.
On a side note. I had a question. I am a heel striker and have noticed decent wear on the outer heel of the shoe but not as much anywhere else on the shoe. Any ideas on whether this is bad or not and if I should look at replacing them within the next 2-3 weeks (120-180 miles)? In the past, I've been stupid about my shoes and put 1100-1200 miles on them before replacing them (big hole-type of wear in the outheel and wear across the ball/toes toe area of the shoe). Any idea on if that where pattern is ok or not? Tried looking it up but couldn't find anything on it.
If it helps, I am a decent HS runner (4:29/9:29 guy) roughly 5'9" 130lbs. Bumping up to 60 now next week and. Maintaining that through the season.
I usually get worried when the wear is that extreme. When I was wearing only Kinvaras in HS I retired them if/when I started feeling uncomfortable, usually pretty soon after 400. I also had 2-3 pairs that I would alternate between - never the same pair on back to back days.
GBohannon wrote:
Saywhat2 wrote:
250 max.
Maybe if you are heavy and/or have an inefficient stride (not an insult, just a fact). If you are efficient and light, there is no need to get new shoes every 2-3 weeks. Just plain silly.
I'm 5'6 and 140lbs
I probably do run a bit heavy footed. But I also blame Saucony. On the outsole on the side they put exposed EVA foam despite being a neutral shoe. It should have the hard rubber lugs it has on the inside for pronators instead of exposed EVA where most neutral/supinators land.
Granted the new Kinvaras they did add 1 rubber lug, 2 would be been nice but its a start.
But then again if they did that they would last longer and sell less shoes.
GBohannon wrote:
saucony user wrote:
250-300 seems right to me. I land pretty far on the outside of my foot so I do get some quick wearing in that area. 800 seems high for pretty much any shoe.
I get this response a lot on here and wonder if it is from experience or if people are just conditioned to believe this. I have never had injury problems or felt like I’ve “killed” a pair of shoes. The other guy I run with also wears Kinvaras and puts more miles on his than I do. He is 44, still runs 100 mpw and has 0 lifetime injuries.
That's fine. I can tell you from my experience that when I surpass a certain number of miles in a shoe, I don't feel as good and get worried about injury. I gusti sono gusti.
saucony user wrote:
GBohannon wrote:
I get this response a lot on here and wonder if it is from experience or if people are just conditioned to believe this. I have never had injury problems or felt like I’ve “killed” a pair of shoes. The other guy I run with also wears Kinvaras and puts more miles on his than I do. He is 44, still runs 100 mpw and has 0 lifetime injuries.
That's fine. I can tell you from my experience that when I surpass a certain number of miles in a shoe, I don't feel as good and get worried about injury. I gusti sono gusti.
Glad to hear it’s from personal experience and not a result of shoe advertising
GBohannon wrote:
saucony user wrote:
250-300 seems right to me. I land pretty far on the outside of my foot so I do get some quick wearing in that area. 800 seems high for pretty much any shoe.
I get this response a lot on here and wonder if it is from experience or if people are just conditioned to believe this. I have never had injury problems or felt like I’ve “killed” a pair of shoes. The other guy I run with also wears Kinvaras and puts more miles on his than I do. He is 44, still runs 100 mpw and has 0 lifetime injuries.
I have similar problem with the Kinvara. It isn't so much an issue with the miles, but the shoe becomes slanted outwards and I start noticing knee soreness. I can extend the life by building the outside back up with shoe goo, but it is easier to just buy more durable shoes. I have put 800+ on a pair shoes back in high school (Puma Cell Venom), but shoes were much sturdier back then. Nowadays even if the outsole holds up, the upper is falling apart before then.
r2k83 wrote:
GBohannon wrote:
I get this response a lot on here and wonder if it is from experience or if people are just conditioned to believe this. I have never had injury problems or felt like I’ve “killed” a pair of shoes. The other guy I run with also wears Kinvaras and puts more miles on his than I do. He is 44, still runs 100 mpw and has 0 lifetime injuries.
I have similar problem with the Kinvara. It isn't so much an issue with the miles, but the shoe becomes slanted outwards and I start noticing knee soreness. I can extend the life by building the outside back up with shoe goo, but it is easier to just buy more durable shoes. I have put 800+ on a pair shoes back in high school (Puma Cell Venom), but shoes were much sturdier back then. Nowadays even if the outsole holds up, the upper is falling apart before then.
Same that happens to me. I guess it is a business after all.
How would the Kinvara 9 be for a marathon?
marathon????? wrote:
How would the Kinvara 9 be for a marathon?
I just started a pair of 9s but I have worn previous versions in multiple marathons and they have worked out great. As someone else said, they are my go-to shoe for all distances and workouts. It's been years ago now but I used to wear the Triumph most of the time and got Kinvaras to wear for speed work, then just decided that they felt so good that I would ditch the heavy Triumph entirely and have not looked back.