At 30 most women my age either have kids or psychological issues, but younger ones are too annoying to tolerate.

A long time ago...

I got dumped by a girl who had mental issues and she said: “I won’t settle for someone like you.”

Now she’s a land whale to boot. ??‍♂️

I ain’t dating no baggage people! They only cause me more baggage and I ain’t have baggage in the first place! ?

just wait wrote:

Dr. Dilemma wrote:

I'm 30 and have gone out with about 20 different women in the last 8 months. I find that almost all available women in their late 20s and beyond either already have children or have significant psychological issues (or both). However, women in their early 20s are extremely annoying, to the point that I often would rather just get off myself then pay them a 90 minute visit because it isn't even worth it under that short of timeframe.

I'm having a tough time picking my poison. The negative traits of both age groups seem to be dealbreakers for me. :(

15 years from now on there'll be sentient sex-bots who'll recite Faust for you while fingering your prostate. Women will become obsolete then.

Can't help but agree with this. Not sure it will be a bad thing either.

Seems like you forgot to develop a likable, less judgmental personality during all that development.

Marriage is overrated that is why I'm in love with a married woman.

Dating is a complete waste of time if you have any standards. It is a complete crap shoot. It takes too long to sift through the people who don't meet your standards. Just go to an online dating site like OKCupid and you can quickly rule out hundreds of girls whom you'd have wasted all that time dating and quickly find the profiles that meet your exact requirements. Also, people tend to reveal a lot more about themselves through the internet because talking to someone through a screen while at a distance is far less intimidating. People are less put-on than when they are face-to-face with someone. Embrace technology and allow computer automation to do most of the work.

What kind of chit are you talking about?

You think you know someone when you talk to them on the internet. And I thought I did. I built this false sense of connection, and then I got dumped. Spending "time" online by exchanging messages and reading how each other's day is is a complete waste of time.

WASTE OF TIME.

I wish I could meet people in real life, but I need a car first...

intenserunner wrote:

Dating is a complete waste of time if you have any standards. It is a complete crap shoot. It takes too long to sift through the people who don't meet your standards. Just go to an online dating site like OKCupid and you can quickly rule out hundreds of girls whom you'd have wasted all that time dating and quickly find the profiles that meet your exact requirements. Also, people tend to reveal a lot more about themselves through the internet because talking to someone through a screen while at a distance is far less intimidating. People are less put-on than when they are face-to-face with someone. Embrace technology and allow computer automation to do most of the work.

LetsRun forums are a perfect example of this. Most people here would not reveal about themselves or say half the things that they say here if they were face-to-face. Meeting people on the internet first can reveal things about people that never would have surfaced if the first meeting were face-to-face.

no fudging way wrote:

What kind of chit are you talking about?

You think you know someone when you talk to them on the internet. And I thought I did. I built this false sense of connection, and then I got dumped. Spending "time" online by exchanging messages and reading how each other's day is is a complete waste of time.

WASTE OF TIME.

I wish I could meet people in real life, but I need a car first...

You got it all wrong. You spend time "sifting". If you try to date like you would face-to-face, only over the internet, then you've totally defeated the utility of the internet. You only start spending all kinds of time with someone, internet or not, once you've used the power of the internet to rule out all ones who don't meet your standards and have made your top pick.

35. Married. Kids.

Move to Philadelphia. Get a dog. Go for a walk on Saturday morning. You will have your pick. Philly is drowning in professional, single, hot women.

The men here are goobers.

Also, all women are nuts. Get over it, look past it, deal with it. It simply comes with being a heterosexual male.

If you can’t deal with crazy, you aren’t ready to have a wife and kids.

no fudging way wrote:

What kind of chit are you talking about?

You think you know someone when you talk to them on the internet. And I thought I did. I built this false sense of connection, and then I got dumped. Spending "time" online by exchanging messages and reading how each other's day is is a complete waste of time.

WASTE OF TIME.

I wish I could meet people in real life, but I need a car first...

The internet is an efficient way to find someone suitable, not for doing the actual dating.

Come here wrote:

Also, all women are nuts. Get over it, look past it, deal with it. It simply comes with being a heterosexual male.

If you can’t deal with crazy, you aren’t ready to have a wife and kids.

Correction. All humans are nuts. The rest is spot on.

It must be terrible to be you. I really feel wicked sorry for you.

Get over yourself and try making friends with some women. Listen to them. Connect.

I dont buy the single mothers only found out their ex/father of their children was a jerk well into the relationship. They chose the guy for a reason. They were attracted to jerks and bad boys, and that doesnt really stop when they finally date/marry a good guy out if economic and emotional necessity.

My high school and college days were miserable in terms of women. I was shy, largely because i was poor, with an incredibly abusive father who left home (thankfully) and a single mother with addiction problems. I was a 4:08 high school miler, a 3:40 1500 later on, and a very good student. Went to scholarship at a so-called prestige school on scholarship. I was reasonably good looking. No women back then wanted anything to do with a poor kid who was nice and polite, especially at a school with rich kids. I hit none of their criteria. I was nice and kind and polite because i had to be. I needed help, whether it was hitching a ride home from college, getting a summer job which was the difference between starvation or eating, or getting a student loan from a banker in town so my mother could pay back taxes and not be homeless, even though i really dudnt qualify. If i was a jerk, i wouldnt have stood a chance in life, although it was a sure way not to have any kind of dating life. Women so often opt for bad boys.

The world didnt have message boards back in my younger days and i ending up dating, and marrying, the first woman who paid me any attention. What did I know? She had a great figure - and still does - and is very bright. She is the offspring of two Holocaust survivors - again - what the hell did I know.? Not an easy lift psychologically. She views marriage entirely as an economic arrangement which also served as a vessel to push the kids to Ivy League Schools (which i paid for). Despite relatively low self esteem and study habits, i did exceedingly well in school, especially in graduate school - so much so i still feel like an impostor. I make about 400k a year, an income level i have had for twenty years, give or take, along with equity, too, which i never touch out of disinterest or ignorance. I could make more if i was focused on money, but my real kick is being competent. House is paid for, (a very nice 5 bedroom house), no debt, no car payments, big goals to beef up the 401k and liquid investments even more. My wife has zero respect for me, figuring out almost instantly that if you lob insults at a formerly horribly abused kid, it works. To listen to her, i am a complete loser. I learned not to be self-deprecating, because she takes it and runs with it to characterize me as a dumb slob. When i mention that I work hard at what i do and bring in a reasonable income, she says “so what, you are just doing your job, and shut up and keep at it”. I stayed without complaint because of the kids, who i love dearly, but clearly this nice guy thing rarely works out. I try not to generalize, but women take whatever they can get, and it doesnt bother them - i care about being a stand up guy - worth more than money - but that value orientation just sets me up and other guys up for more abuse. I used to think that there were women out there who wre kind and supportive, but i dont see it. Her friends are similar, with an entitlement mentality a mile long. Young guys should evaluate whther someone truly adds happiness before they commit, and if there is even a bit of doubt, error on the side of stopping the relationship. Clearly comments about my idiocy are expected, but really, i want young guys to recognize what they are facing.

That is hard to read, man.

I used to invest my energy and effort into other people. That got rejected - A LOT.

Now I invest myself into running, soccer, and have dreams of playing in the MLS. I'm in my 20s, but if any chick gives me attention, I believe it's from my display of hard work, mentality, and training. I'm not attractive on the outside, but I feel more attractive when I'm sprinting and training. I usually attract the eyes of soccer and hockey chicks now. I think I like that because they understand what hard work and dedication is, even though there isn't any financial benefit.

I'm just a poor man with an athletic physique.

But once I make it in the MLS and get that six figure salary,... I'll still be into soccer and hockey chicks, and nerdy chicks because they're down to earth!

Cristiano Ronaldo is my role model in terms of how he acts even though he's successful. I just want to be a footballer (soccer player), pay rent, and buy a house for my parents and then live in obscurity after I'm no longer in my prime.

Pissed Off Old Boy wrote:

But once I make it in the MLS and get that six figure salary,

Cool story, Bro! Get back to us when you crack $50,000!

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Pissed Off Old Boy wrote:

But once I make it in the MLS and get that six figure salary,

Cool story, Bro! Get back to us when you crack $50,000!

He has a greater chance of being a star MLS player than marrying a good woman.

50k isn’t the minimum starting salary anymore. It’s 53K

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Go the milf route bro, you won't regret it!

Dr. Dilemma wrote:

I'm 30 and have gone out with about 20 different women in the last 8 months. I find that almost all available women in their late 20s and beyond either already have children or have significant psychological issues (or both). However, women in their early 20s are extremely annoying, to the point that I often would rather just get off myself then pay them a 90 minute visit because it isn't even worth it under that short of timeframe.

I'm having a tough time picking my poison. The negative traits of both age groups seem to be dealbreakers for me. :(

Do you have spreadsheet data by chance? I want to dump it into a powerpoint i made for my GF