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Yes. It is disgusting to think they are better in a grave than running for WCAP. Do you really not understand that?

J walter wrote:

Yes. It is disgusting to think they are better in a grave than running for WCAP. Do you really not understand that?

They enlist, then have to make the WCAP team, and even after they make the team could be dropped it their times are not internationally competitive, in whioh case they get sent to the Green Berets and Delta Forces for deployment to Afghanistan. That's one hell of a roller coaster ride. One that may end in death.

Lickety Split wrote:

J walter wrote:

They do more than you, which is why you can’t articulate how they are cowardly or maligners.

Further, you said they’d be better off in a grave than serving WCAP. That’s f*cked up. You’re disgusting.

- Disgusting?

- "I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

- Doesn't say anything about running for WCAP! Serving is about "Honor"!

Doesn’t say anything about recruiting or instructing either. Are recruiters and instructors not serving their country during that assignment?

It’s the same way with WCAP. The Army has given them this assignment. They serve at the Army’s will.

Alan

Fran Davenport wrote:

A couple of things lost in this debate:

1. The Kenyans who have joined the WCAP program are just taking advantage of an opportunity. Who wouldn’t jump at the offer of US citizenship and full-time athlete status?

2. Why is the US Army recruiting, offering US citizenship, and paying Kenyan runners to run for the US? Does this make any sense?

1. Correct. Military service has always been a path to citizenship. The regular route takes a year of service. Under the old MANVI program you could become a citizen after basic training. MANVI was suspended in 2016.

2. I don’t think the Army is doing the recruiting. Any soldier can apply for WCAP. I believe what is happening is similar to what happens at certain colleges in which Kenyan brothers and school mates end up at the same college year after year. Word of mouth. I’m sure there was someone in the program who had the original idea and it went off from there.

Think about it. If you were a Kenyan attending an American college for 4 years and have come to enjoy the American lifestyle would you not want to stay?

Also WCAP is more than just track and has been around for quite a while, just less successful.

Alan

Lickety Split wrote:

- "I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

- Doesn't say anything about running for WCAP! Serving is about "Honor"!

Nor does it say anything about playing football, baseball or basketball. Yet the armed services have teams in all those sports.

Nor does it say anything about firing guns, driving tanks, flying planes or sailing ships. All you have to do is, "obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me". So if you are asked to run for your service then you run for your service.

Surely you are not suggesting recruits disobey orders?

Scott Simmons is a hack!

Agree ... just like most folks associated with WCAP!

Everyone knows that you are far more American by being born in the USA vs willing to die for it.

Each man bravely risks Fatal Consequences wrote:

J walter wrote:

Yes. It is disgusting to think they are better in a grave than running for WCAP. Do you really not understand that?

They enlist, then have to make the WCAP team, and even after they make the team could be dropped it their times are not internationally competitive, in whioh case they get sent to the Green Berets and Delta Forces for deployment to Afghanistan. That's one hell of a roller coaster ride. One that may end in death.

American WCAP soldiers are the most dedicated and respected special operations outfits soldiers in the world.

I agree that they are "SPECIAL" ... F/T athletes, funded travel, full benefits, a soldiers salary plus Nike and Prize Money ... definitely "SPECIAL!" and you are paying for it every April.

This likety guy isn't such a big whiner

Just speaking the truth!