With his first split being close to 61:00, surely he would have run much faster had he gone out more slowly, such as in 61:45-62:00. Can Mo break 2:04, or win Olympic gold in 2020?
With his first split being close to 61:00, surely he would have run much faster had he gone out more slowly, such as in 61:45-62:00. Can Mo break 2:04, or win Olympic gold in 2020?
Maybe he can have a shot at a tactical championship win without pacers.
Not quite as competitive as Ryan Hall who ran London faster than him and who also ran a 2:04
jkgkubk wrote:
Not quite as competitive as Ryan Hall who ran London faster than him and who also ran a 2:04
2:04: highly wind-aided
Ran London faster: did not go out well-below WR pace, Farah is clearly capable of better
Zuck wrote:
jkgkubk wrote:
Not quite as competitive as Ryan Hall who ran London faster than him and who also ran a 2:04
2:04: highly wind-aided
Ran London faster: did not go out well-below WR pace, Farah is clearly capable of better
WR pace? Hall went out around the WR pace. Farah needs to run fast and then we'll see if he's clearly capable.
I did not expect such a good showing from him.
World stage ?
25 men ran under 2:06:15 last year
Lets see him in another race with better pacing and some more marathon mileage under his belt before we call him 'a threat'
Competitive for a top 3 or 4 finish sure.
He's clearly competitive, he finished top 3 in the London marathon and beat some top marathoners. You could even call this his debut marathon as a full time road runner.
Field was stacked, conditions difficult and the pace to 14 miles was unbelievable. Farah didn't blow up nearly as badly as one might have thought, the other guys such as Bekele came out of the 61 split a lot worse. Farah also twice had to waste unnecessary energy putting in serious surges to catch up with the field because he messed up the drinks stations.
I was skeptical before this race. I would have put Farah as a 2:05/2:06 guy in a perfect race. Now I think he's capable of being a 2:04 low guy.
jkgkubk wrote:
Zuck wrote:
2:04: highly wind-aided
Ran London faster: did not go out well-below WR pace, Farah is clearly capable of better
WR pace? Hall went out around the WR pace. Farah needs to run fast and then we'll see if he's clearly capable.
Hall did not go out anything close to 1:01:03.
Liar.
A 2:06 in that weather is mighty impressive. It does show how hard a medal is in the marathon. Would Mo have beaten every other champion at the other big spring marathons? Rotterdam? Paris? Boston? Etc. Still a great run. Definitely can be 2:04-high or 2:05 in better conditions with better pacing. I wonder if he'll take a crack at Berlin or if he'll be fine going somewhere tactical like NYC now that he has the British record.
history major wrote:
jkgkubk wrote:
WR pace? Hall went out around the WR pace. Farah needs to run fast and then we'll see if he's clearly capable.
Hall did not go out anything close to 1:01:03.
Liar.
A history major you are certainly not. The WR in 2008 was right at 2:04 flat. They went out at just over 1:02. That would be around WR pace no? Am I missing something??
If Farah goes out in 62 flat on a cooler day then he would run 2:04 low I've no doubt about it.
It WAS the world stage, and Mo was NOT competitive. There's no point in the race where anyone would rationally think Mo was going to win. He showed he can place, though.
Kipchoge would have set WR if it had been cooler today.
They measure temp in shade - direct sun it's 80 plus- I'm in London. Look what happened to women's leader. Commentators idiots on BBC- pace was too fast for the conditions otherwise she'd have run at least 2:16 instead of blowing up.
Mo not going to be challenge Kipchoge but can run 2:04 - 2:05
He's just finished 3rd in one of the best fields ever. If that's not competitive what is!
He's a threat to win any non paced race where Kipchoge is not in the field.
irishod wrote:
He's a threat to win any non paced race where Kipchoge is not in the field.
Fair.
Um.....wtf does the title of this thread mean?
I mean....all those Olympic and WC golds....
He finished 3rd in the most competitive marathon field of the past year. He beat Kirui, KB, Adola and Wanjiru. Of course he is competitive on the world stage. Can he beat Kipchoge? Probably not, but this was only his second marathon and his last marathon was four years ago. So, he may be able to put it together and catch up to Kipchoge.
Mo (or should I say Mohammed) Farah became suddenly competitive on the world stage when he was 28 and had met Salazar, not today.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Kipchoge would have set WR if it had been cooler today.
They measure temp in shade - direct sun it's 80 plus- I'm in London. Look what happened to women's leader. Commentators idiots on BBC- pace was too fast for the conditions otherwise she'd have run at least 2:16 instead of blowing up.
Mo not going to be challenge Kipchoge but can run 2:04 - 2:05
He's just finished 3rd in one of the best fields ever. If that's not competitive what is!
Sure, next its going to be 120 degrees in the shade. Lots of ifs, and's, and buts, but the reality is Farah is a mediocre marathon runner is fact until he proves otherwise. He has not won a non-paced marathon either. It's all just empty speculation.
2:02.30. 30 sec for the fast first 5k and 90 sec for warm weather. 2min is a lot!!!