No one is buying the BS that Sky is selling any longer...will we go deeper into the files of other U.K. athletes as well?
No one is buying the BS that Sky is selling any longer...will we go deeper into the files of other U.K. athletes as well?
Froome and the Sky team management should be banned for life from cycling and sports period. Froome lied about having asthma, then he took PEDS, then he lied about having kidney failure to explain his flunked drug tests. After these lies why should anyone believe he was not taking other PEDs such as EPO, steroids etc? In addition to the ban, absolutely all earnings from cycling by Team SKY and Froome need to be given back to the cycling organizations and then put into some charitable cause such as improving healthcare of infrastructure somewhere. Any resistance to do so should lead to immediate automatic life imprisonment. Punishment for doping should entail all involved having to start their lives from zero again as that would be a sufficient sort of deterrant, providing it was properly enforced. There is now a great opportunity to start doing this with Froome and Team Sky.
No deterrent to use PEDs wrote:
Froome and the Sky team management should be banned for life from cycling and sports period. Froome lied about having asthma, then he took PEDS, then he lied about having kidney failure to explain his flunked drug tests. After these lies why should anyone believe he was not taking other PEDs such as EPO, steroids etc? In addition to the ban, absolutely all earnings from cycling by Team SKY and Froome need to be given back to the cycling organizations and then put into some charitable cause such as improving healthcare of infrastructure somewhere. Any resistance to do so should lead to immediate automatic life imprisonment. Punishment for doping should entail all involved having to start their lives from zero again as that would be a sufficient sort of deterrant, providing it was properly enforced. There is now a great opportunity to start doing this with Froome and Team Sky.
I like it.
Off the back wrote:
No one is buying the BS that Sky is selling any longer...will we go deeper into the files of other U.K. athletes as well?
http://www.velonews.com/2018/03/news/uci-rejects-froomes-arguments-sends-case-to-anti-doping-court_461685
" He is allowed to continue doping until the case is decided upon "
No deterrent to use PEDs wrote:
Froome and the Sky team management should be banned for life from cycling and sports period. Froome lied about having asthma, then he took PEDS, then he lied about having kidney failure to explain his flunked drug tests. After these lies why should anyone believe he was not taking other PEDs such as EPO, steroids etc? In addition to the ban, absolutely all earnings from cycling by Team SKY and Froome need to be given back to the cycling organizations and then put into some charitable cause such as improving healthcare of infrastructure somewhere. Any resistance to do so should lead to immediate automatic life imprisonment. Punishment for doping should entail all involved having to start their lives from zero again as that would be a sufficient sort of deterrant, providing it was properly enforced. There is now a great opportunity to start doing this with Froome and Team Sky.
A full government investigation essentially found nothing.
Imagine if all nations had to go through this sort of scrutiny.
trollism wrote:
No deterrent to use PEDs wrote:
Froome and the Sky team management should be banned for life from cycling and sports period. Froome lied about having asthma, then he took PEDS, then he lied about having kidney failure to explain his flunked drug tests. After these lies why should anyone believe he was not taking other PEDs such as EPO, steroids etc? In addition to the ban, absolutely all earnings from cycling by Team SKY and Froome need to be given back to the cycling organizations and then put into some charitable cause such as improving healthcare of infrastructure somewhere. Any resistance to do so should lead to immediate automatic life imprisonment. Punishment for doping should entail all involved having to start their lives from zero again as that would be a sufficient sort of deterrant, providing it was properly enforced. There is now a great opportunity to start doing this with Froome and Team Sky.
A full government investigation essentially found nothing.
lol.
Is that the same one that fingered the Russian state for something before the police investigation had barely started never mind finished?
SKY=British Cycling=British State.
hillarious wrote:
trollism wrote:
A full government investigation essentially found nothing.
lol.
Is that the same one that fingered the Russian state for something before the police investigation had barely started never mind finished?
SKY=British Cycling=British State.
I'm guessing all the whistleblowers haven't come forward yet because they fear for their lives?
Why hasn't anyone come forward with any details of these terrible things going on in British Cycling?
trollism wrote:
hillarious wrote:
lol.
Is that the same one that fingered the Russian state for something before the police investigation had barely started never mind finished?
SKY=British Cycling=British State.
I'm guessing all the whistleblowers haven't come forward yet because they fear for their lives?
Why hasn't anyone come forward with any details of these terrible things going on in British Cycling?
Are you referring to lies, cover ups, and "stolen"/misplaced laptops?
trollism wrote:
A full government investigation essentially found nothing.
No it didn't. The full goverment investigation (which was not that deep anyway and did not involve police breaking into riders homes as happens in other countries) concluded that Sky/British cycling were not particularly forthcoming in helping the investigation and there were endless unanswered questions: Eg mystery contents of packages being hand delivered to riders at races, team members' medical records not being made available or lost/destroyed etc etc. Sky should be banned from cycling period. They were all sanctimonious about doping when they were doping themselves; they were engaging in the worst sort of hypocrisy and now should be made to pay the consequences. Sure, other cycling teams should probably be banned as well but at this moment in time Sky are the first in line.
No deterrent to use PEDs wrote:
trollism wrote:
A full government investigation essentially found nothing.
No it didn't. The full goverment investigation (which was not that deep anyway and did not involve police breaking into riders homes as happens in other countries) concluded that Sky/British cycling were not particularly forthcoming in helping the investigation and there were endless unanswered questions: Eg mystery contents of packages being hand delivered to riders at races, team members' medical records not being made available or lost/destroyed etc etc. Sky should be banned from cycling period. They were all sanctimonious about doping when they were doping themselves; they were engaging in the worst sort of hypocrisy and now should be made to pay the consequences. Sure, other cycling teams should probably be banned as well but at this moment in time Sky are the first in line.
We find you guilty of being 'not particularly forthcoming'!!!!!
Yeah. Sounds like grounds for being banned from the sport.
Any idea why there haven't been any whistleblowers given the extent that you seem to believe doping is going on?
An interesting account regarding Froome from a pro woman who has asthma. Gotta think froomie is not the upstanding guy he appears to be.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/compton-questions-chris-froomes-asthma-medication-claims/
moanswers wrote:
An interesting account regarding Froome from a pro woman who has asthma. Gotta think froomie is not the upstanding guy he appears to be.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/compton-questions-chris-froomes-asthma-medication-claims/
Interesting, but ends with the caveat that she actually has no idea what she's talking about and she's just guessing.
Any ideas why he would use a supposedly performance enhancing (there's very little evidence that there is any actual benefit) dose on this one stage, but not on any other stage of this race or any other race?
SKY = British Cycling = British State.
team sky are not anything to do with the British Government, and nothing team sky do has anything to do with the British Government, and, to be honest, I am more than a little confused as to why anyone thinks that any of this has anything to do with any government at all.
put it this way. the IAAF (and other major sports bodies such as ICU etc.) are essentailly just a private company. they have rules. these are not laws of any country, they are just rules for participation in their sport. breaking these rules is not illegal, in the sense that bank robbery is illegal, all you are doing is breaking the private rule of some private company. this has nothing whatsoever to do with any government and as a British taxpayer I am extremely annoyed that my taxes are being wasted on this stuff.
here's an analogy. Microsoft invent a printer that can only be used with a certain type of paper. you want to use the Microsoft printer, you have to use Microsoft special paper. those are the rules. then Hewlett Packard invent a printer cartridge that lets you use the Microsoft printer with cheaper paper. so Microsoft email me and ask, "are you using that Hewlett Packard printer cartridge and that cheaper paper?"
and I say: No, of course not.
Microsoft: we think you are.
Me: well, I'm not.
now, please explain which part of that needs to be investigated by the US Government?
cheers.
trollism wrote:
Any ideas why he would use a supposedly performance enhancing (there's very little evidence that there is any actual benefit) dose on this one stage, but not on any other stage of this race or any other race?
It was no big secret he was suffering from breathing problems in the days leading up to the test, either from asthma or a cold. My guess is he took a larger than allowed dose (potentially orally or intravenously which is not allowed) trying to clear it up.