Last clean record holder at every event?

ryan hall not record eligible

evan jager likely doping according to fancy bears

also all white people your racist af bruh

kipchoge, i'll say, may have doped in younger years, but I doubt he has in 5+ years, give him the thon

he's a super humble, down to earth type of guy.

Finally, although Bekele ran so fast it's unlikely he's clean, there is no evidence (failed test, leaks, coach associations) that lead me to think he doped. Innocent until proven guilty, and there literally isn't a slight bit of evidence. ie: paula isn't officially a doper but she did dope and we all know it. Tirunesh as well, due to association with her dirty af sister. However, guys like Bekele, theirs no dirt.

You think Steve Cram was dirty? His career appears to be about as natural as you could get. Teenage prodigy running age record times when his parents could barely afford to buy him a pair of proper running shoes, constantly injured in his prime etc.

The sad thing about Crammy is out of Coe, Ovett, and himself, he was the one youngest enough (just) to have been theoretically been able to take part in the EPO madness. Unfortunately, he couldn't string two training sessions together without getting injured after 88. He was still only 32 at the Barcelona olympics. Imagine a fit Cram on EPO?

100m Harold Abrahams

200m Harold Abrahams

400m Eric Liddell

800m Seb Coe

1500m Steve Cram

Mile Steve Cram

5000m David Moorcroft

current clean wr holders

100m Christophe Lemaitre

200m Christophe Lemaitre

400m Iwan Thomas

800m Seb Coe

1500m Nick Willis

Mile Steve Cram

5000m Craig Mottram

come on if coe was overlooking paula he was probly dirty himself. And webb was definitely clean, he was blazing in highschool.

epicTCK wrote:

also all white people your racist af bruh

I didn't realize that Henry Rono was white. And last i cheeked Portuguese weren't white.

epicTCK wrote:

come on if coe was overlooking paula he was probly dirty himself. And webb was definitely clean, he was blazing in highschool.

Well I honestly don't know about Webb. The fact that he was 'blazing in highschool' doesn't necessarily mean he didn't dope when half the kids in American highschools are pumped up on steroids, and Webb himself must be the most muscled elite miler in history. Not even the 800m East German steroid junkies like Beyer came close. I'm not sure what logic you're using to claim Cram doped but that Webb is obviously clean.

Libertarian vegan wrote:

Who was the last full natty at every event in track and field?

My guess

I love that your list is, with the exception of two athletes, all white Anglo Saxons.

Cute!

fartleks and bagels wrote:

[quote]epicTCK wrote:

And last i cheeked Portuguese weren't white.

Really? When did you last check? Since when are Portuguese NOT white?

dwightarm wrote:

fartleks and bagels wrote:

[quote]epicTCK wrote:

And last i cheeked Portuguese weren't white.

Really? When did you last check? Since when are Portuguese NOT white?

When did Arabs become white?

fartleks and bagels wrote:

When did Arabs become white?

http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Europe/Portugal-ETHNIC-GROUPS.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

A) In 1944 in the United States, Arabs have been deemed white by law. Some, though not all, Arabs are indeed considered white along with some North Africans. There are many fair, Caucasian Arabs in the world who are, yes, considered white.

B) While Portuguese may have some Arab ancestry, they are mostly made up of Iberian and Roman heritage aka... white.

In short, back to my question: When did you last 'check' that Portuguese weren't white? Because you've yet to offer any proof of that. As a follow-up: If Portuguese are not white, then what race are they?

fartleks and bagels wrote:

When did Arabs become white?

http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Europe/Portugal-ETHNIC-GROUPS.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

I think all the South European countries have a lot of arabic dna in them. Portuguese probably have less than Italians. The 'arabs' who conquered Iberia were actually Berbas who themselves had been conquered and converted to Islam.

I'm really sick of this ad naseum Coe stuff from you! Don't you ever take a break?

epicTCK wrote:

ryan hall not record eligible

Why not?

Also, I know this is an anti-East African trollpost, but really, Mark Nenow? That would imply Meb, Solinsky, and like 200 others are all dirty.

fartleks and bagels wrote:

epicTCK wrote:

also all white people your racist af bruh

I didn't realize that Henry Rono was white. And last i cheeked Portuguese weren't white.

I was reffering to the second list

Hardloper wrote:

epicTCK wrote:

ryan hall not record eligible

Why not?

because it was at boston on net downhill with strong tailwind.

and yeah, I suppose alan webb could have been doping. he ran ~4:07 as a sophomore though, he was a massive talent either way

Where's Jim Ryan?

Cinder_Fella wrote:

Where's Jim Ryan?

Ryun

Libertarian vegan wrote:

Now who is the current clean record holder?

My guess

800m Alan Webb

1500m Alan Webb

3000m craig Mottram

5000m Craig Mottram

10000m Mark Nenow

Half Marathon Ryan Hall

Marathon Ryan Hall

3000m steeple chase Evan Jager

Why do you think Jager is clean but not Symmonds, Willis, Hill, Solinsky?

Well, if I had to guess:

a) the last clean record was from before 1970. After that, the drugs were too powerful, and doping back then was way too easy, and still is.

b) the current clean record holders are random unknowns, e.g. over 5000 it could be anyone from the 13:00+ runners or so. Not saying that no one could run 12:59 clean, but he would be too tempted to dope and go under 12:50.

My guess

Last clean record holder

800m David Rudisha

1500m Steve Cram

3000m Henry Rono

5000m David Moorcroft

10000m Paul Tergat

Half Marathon Zersernay Tadese

Marthon Paul Tergat

3000m steeple chase Henry Rono

Current clean record holder

800m see above

1500m Nick Wills

3000m Eluid Kipchoge

5000m Eluid Kipchoge

10000m see above

Half marathon see above

Marathon Eluid Kipchoge

3000m steeplechase Ezekiel Kemboi