I love robert and consider him a true friend but...yes, that was a silly comment. I can understand the curiosity, what with the proliferation of technology in just about every sport but...would never work here.
I love robert and consider him a true friend but...yes, that was a silly comment. I can understand the curiosity, what with the proliferation of technology in just about every sport but...would never work here.
Of course it would help. If you heard that you were already ahead by a margin, then you don't take need to take risks.
DownhillSkiller wrote:
Of course it would help. If you heard that you were already ahead by a margin, then you don't take need to take risks.
In these events there is no being ahead by a wide margin. A wide margin is .5. If you are not aggressive you will lose. Trust me, it would NEVER be beneficial. Again, you know when you messed up and you also know when you are having a clean run. This is not running guys.
When you are running a clean race you have to keep the rhythm going. You can lose a second easily with one late gate. The speed loss takes a few gates to overcome.
rojo wrote:
I asked thinking they could Have someone watching the electronic timer and telling them to hey are behind. Then they could just go for broke and take more risks. Bode Miller is always talking about taking risks.
When you are behind it means you were out of position on a gate or a series of gates. Even beginner ski racers can feel that. Then you know you have to keep your skis pointed down the run and find the best line. But, you have to do that anyway. Sometimes when the "best" line gets chewed up you have to get even tighter on it. At that level, it's tough because almost everyone has it right.
At that level, if you hold back you lose. There is no protecting a lead or trying to catch up by taking risks. You have to get it right or you'll finish in the middle of the pack.
Instead of splits, what they could do is set some target splits and then play a very loud tone that gets higher or lower in pitch depending on how far they are above or below the target, which would be set at 256hz.
They could have a computer set up to calculate it on the fly. This has to be possible if those tennis computers can decide if a ball was in or out.
cpr wrote:
Nordic skiing gets most of its intensity because of the time trial setup. You can never slack off.
Imagine Mr. Farrah had to run against the clock!
No more jogging around, and we'd see real running again.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Instead of splits, what they could do is set some target splits and then play a very loud tone that gets higher or lower in pitch depending on how far they are above or below the target, which would be set at 256hz.
They could have a computer set up to calculate it on the fly. This has to be possible if those tennis computers can decide if a ball was in or out.
Contact USSA and then come back here to post their reaction. It will be great entertainment.
DownhillSkiller wrote:
Of course it would help. If you heard that you were already ahead by a margin, then you don't take need to take risks.
Except there are most likely skiers going after you who could then post a faster time.
Colorado Ski Meister wrote:
No. Alpine skiing is tenths or hundreths of seconds. Watching teenage hotshots--not world class-- on the downhill or super g--there is no perceptible difference from one to the other--they just whiz by. World cup skiers are very similar--just whiz by 10 mph faster. Standing on the course is not like watching it on TV. 1st to 15th in the Olympic Downhill is probably within a couple seconds in a two minute race. It's also not about pacing or saving energy--the only strategy is balls out--but don't fall. Memorize the course, and plan each turn to set up efficient line into the next turn. Smooth, carved turns, minimize skidding, ride a flat ski on the straights, minimize air. Splits would not alter that strategy-even if they could be communicated, processed and acted upon. Alpine racers, the top seeds start first, before the course gets rutted up.
In Nordic, it's usually time trial, where you randomly start every 30 seconds or so. Each team's fifth seed starts,, then each team's fourth seed, and each team's third seed, etc. The order within the seeds is randomly drawn. The top seeds start at the back of the pack--sometimes your coach will tell you if you are gaining or lagging on one of your primary competitors--but it's pretty random--and as often as not, they lie so you ski faster....... If snow is moving in, sometimes coaches will switch it up, and send their top guys out first, when the snow is probably faster before the blizzard gets heavy.
Mass starts are rare, except in relays or citizen races. And Nordic Combined is a pursuit race, with start handicap based on your jump score. Top Jumper starts first, and the lesser jumpers chase him. First across the line wins. Coaches on the course will usually tell you if you are gaining on your rival, or lagging-if you can't yet see them. If you start ahead of them, you just go like hell.
Mass starts are NOT rare.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Instead of splits, what they could do is set some target splits and then play a very loud tone that gets higher or lower in pitch depending on how far they are above or below the target, which would be set at 256hz.
They could have a computer set up to calculate it on the fly. This has to be possible if those tennis computers can decide if a ball was in or out.
Why not have splits or in the 400 hurdles or 400 run.
"skiers" is a broad term.
Alpine--no. That would be a horrible distraction going 80+mph
Nordic: coaches give time back either from the leader or the next skier