I was looking at the Racing Flats page and saw this listed. Available for order on March 15, 2018. $180. Seems like they developed a lighter Boost midsole and shaved some weight on the upper. The outsole also seems more minimal and drops the plastic torsion thingie.
Yes, and the sole is FULL continental rubber. The thing that I love about NB and Adidas is that they uses a quality amount of rubber on their soles, so their shoes do a great job at absorbing shock.
They ditched the polymer torsion, which was their form of using a shank to keep the shoe stable while going through the landing and push off transition. It's just a full length of boost to provide a lot of energy during push-off, and it appears to be a 6-8 mm drop.
I will be purchasing!
vivalarepublica wrote:
I was looking at the Racing Flats page and saw this listed. Available for order on March 15, 2018. $180. Seems like they developed a lighter Boost midsole and shaved some weight on the upper. The outsole also seems more minimal and drops the plastic torsion thingie.
http://www.runningwarehouse.com/adidas_adizero_Sub2_Unisex_Shoes_Core_Black_Core_Black/descpage-AASUBS.html
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Looks like less drop than most Adidas... promising... but who am I kidding? They won't offer this in clown sizes :-(
Tempting, but I'll stick to the Adios. On sale you can get them easily for half the price. If I had fu money, then yeah, but not there (yet)...
above_average_joe wrote:
Tempting, but I'll stick to the Adios. On sale you can get them easily for half the price. If I had fu money, then yeah, but not there (yet)...
The RW link still doesn't load but the other link is interesting, they look like nice tempo shoes for aging enthusiasts with shot lower limbs. Nice shoes though, I could see these replacing the Zante. I still can't see these shoes getting someone to run a proper marathon in under 2 hours. $180 is expensive. I got some Boston Boost's for $US50 on Dec 26 and they are excellent. The sub2s look alot like the Nike Lunartempo with boost foamy bubble stuff.
I ordered a pair from id4shoes. Expecting them to arrive this weekend. Not sure how they'll stack up against the adios though...
They kind look like a casual wear shoe. I didn't realize that the rectangular sections of the outsole are actually sunk into the outsole, so the parts that contacts the ground are the lines between the squares on the outsole (if that makes sense). That's different than anything I have ever seen before in a racing flat. I wonder why they did that.
Here is a link to the general racing flat page, that's where I first saw the listing:
http://www.runningwarehouse.com/catpage-MRAC.html?ctype=comp
Plan to buy a pair to try out to compare them to the Vaporfly 4%. I wonder if they will ship before the Boston marathon.
I really want to try this shoe, but at $180 ill probably get the adios.
Bruin1996 wrote:
Plan to buy a pair to try out to compare them to the Vaporfly 4%. I wonder if they will ship before the Boston marathon.
Just by looking at them, they seem like completely different shoes. The Sub2 strikes me as a slimmed down version of the Adios. The Vaporfly 4% still is in a category of its own, with the super thick midsole and carbon fiber plate. The Sub2 also seems to have a lower drop than the Vaporfly 4%. I anticipate that the Sub2 will provide a more traditional running flat experience compared the cushioned, stiff monster that is the 4%.
I will buy a pair and post a review. They look promising to me. Toebox looks a little wider than the usual (narrow) Adidas toeboxes; maybe the photo just gives that appearance. I like that they removed the shank/medial posting of any kind. This looks like it could be a good everyday flat.
Threestripes wrote:
I ordered a pair from id4shoes. Expecting them to arrive this weekend. Not sure how they'll stack up against the adios though...
Well let me tell you... since they are basically replacing the Sen/Ren they will shave at least some 20/25 grams on an average 9 size compared to the Adios (it was rumoured they should come at around 200g when they have been spotted in Tokyo a year ago for the first time).
So unless you are called Kipsang you can probably stick to your Adios if you are planning to run marathons in them, even if they are a touch heavier than the two models they replace....
If the RW link doesn't work: Men's Running Shoes - Adidas - Sort by Preorder, there you go. Only available mid March though
The Sub2 is just a lighter Adios, less durable outsole, lower drop. Is it worth the 180$? Why not, it's the first shoe to use Boost light, the latest materials come at a cost.
Still, for the marathon, the Adios is already too little shoe for most people. I wonder how the cushioning will compare.
Considering the price of the Takumi Sen, the Sub2 doesn't seem outrageously expensive.
Didn't Adidas drop the Sub2 shoe development, though? Will they only be available for a limited time?
Will this shoe help me break 4 hours for the 'thon? Cause right now my PR is 4:17:08
Well it'd be curious to hear from someone how much less shoe the sub2 are compared to the Adios. I'm by no means fast (3 hour marathoner) , but the Adios worked very well for me. I use them for all road races from 5k to marathon.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Yes, and the sole is FULL continental rubber. The thing that I love about NB and Adidas is that they uses a quality amount of rubber on their soles, so their shoes do a great job at absorbing shock.
They ditched the polymer torsion, which was their form of using a shank to keep the shoe stable while going through the landing and push off transition. It's just a full length of boost to provide a lot of energy during push-off, and it appears to be a 6-8 mm drop.
I will be purchasing!
I always wondered what the plastic under the arch was for. When you say it keeps it stable, do you mean to keep the shoe from twisting as you land on the outside edge of your foot?