Entire men's and women's Claremont-Mudd-Scripps track teams are suspended for prank / assault by 6 naked dudes

Defenderer wrote:

Do you enjoy being held down by naked men, not knowing what next they might do to you?

Yes, that's a regular Friday night for me.

Seriously, chill out. There's worse things than having hot sweaty meat shoved in your face.

Haha hilarious prank. Runners aren’t gay at all! Wonder why anyone would think that? Anyway great prank! Haha

Soprano wrote:

Punish the six athletes, leave the overall teams alone. Why is this more complicated than that? 114 athletes (including the women's team) being suspended for a prank by six guys on the men's team seems extreme to me.

Its hazing . The entire team was involved.

Being held down by a naked person is sexual assault. Being naked in public is sexual harassment at the least. They also stole property. Pranking is an absolutely pathetic excuse to attempt to take away responsibility. Would you be okay if your mother, sister, or girlfriend was held down by some naked guys? Depending on the individual victim, he or she could suffer after the fact as well.

First, this sounds like the dumbest "prank" ever. How did the conversation go?

"Hey, guys! You know what would be awesome? Let's go steal a picture!"

"Great idea, bro! But you know what would make it even better? If we were all naked!"

They sound like a bunch of nerds out on their own for their first time. Which, I suppose they are, but I'd expect a little more restraint (probably a poor choice of words in this instance) or guidance from the upperclassmen. Someone should have stepped in and told them how dumb and spectacularly uncool this idea was.

Second, hazing in any form is stupid, but why the hell does a track and field team need to haze its members? Isn't the training hard enough? If they are really hazing people and this is an example of how they do it, screw 'em; I hope their whole season is cancelled.

This is coming from a person who spent plenty of time doing stupid naked stuff in college (co-ed naked mile with the women's team, etc). The difference is that we never did anything illegal, we never hurt anyone, and it was never just guys.

Some people do like that, you kink-shaming bigot.

found the homophobe. quit projecting your insecurities snowflake

Dripping with Privelege wrote:

You think not liking being held down by drunk naked guys is being a 'snowflake'? Wow.

This.

"This is coming from a person who spent plenty of time doing stupid naked stuff in college (co-ed naked mile with the women's team, etc)."

Now tell us about the stupid stuff.

just boys having fun... wrote:

At a Beta Theta Pi bid acceptance night two days prior, Piazza had reportedly consumed at least 18 drinks in 82 minutes. He'd fallen 15 feet down a flight of basement stairs, and remained largely unconscious for 12 hours before anyone dialed 911.

He died from traumatic brain injuries and spleen damage on February 4, 2017, in the hospital.

In wake of his death, 26 fraternity members and the now-defunct Beta Theta Pi chapter are charged in one of the largest criminal indictments in recent history levied against a fraternity and its members.

ha ha ha

What's your point?

Just because some fraternities/hazing has gone way too far doens't mean we should eliminate it all.

It blows my mind how AMericans can't understand that the middle ground is a good place to be.

The problem in this world is everything gets taken too far. After the Great Depression, we had FDR and the safety net and the rise of unions but then it went too far. Then we went in the other direction. A 90% top tax bracket was absurd. So we cut taxes, that doesn't mean we should eliminate taxes like so many right wingers seem to think.

Everything gets taken too far. There is no nuance. It's easier to just eliminate it all.

Fb post wrote:

"This is some of the worst reporting I have ever seen especially from a paper that claims to support unbiased, fact-based journalism. I have spoken to people who were actually there (unlike TSL) and most of this article is disputed rumor or blatantly false, and all of it is biased by the Pomona students that run this paper."

Comment from student newspaper's post. Seems like there's more to it.

Where do you see comments? I went to the article and looked for comments and thought it was weird that there are zero comments on all of their articles.

Do you have to be logged in to see comments?

Dripping with Privelege wrote:

You think not liking being held down by drunk naked guys is being a 'snowflake'? Wow.

I'll bet that snowflake was "dripping with privilege" after those boys got done with him.

Check the facebook. It's there.

fedexsfdfsdfd wrote:

The kid who was "assaulted" sounds like a snowflake.

Was the kid who was held down by a group of naked males a woman?

1) So would noogies, fivestars, and purple nurples if we are being literal, what's your point?

2) I never said exact, I said aside from precious feelings what is the difference? I'd still like to hear an answer to that.

3) The point wasn't that it is the same, it was that it is not a traumatic or harming experience.

I get why the person would be upset or annoyed. I get why they might say "f*ck you guys" or try and resist them with force of his own. I don't, however, get why they would feel victimized to the point of taking legal action (to be fair, it never said what the students thoughts are, he may not even care). If it were my mother is irrelevant, because it was a male student, not an older women. If it were my younger bother, I'd have a good laugh. Like I said, the university has to establish some form punishment, but news stories and getting the police involved is just stupid.

Sooooo does this mean they are cancelling their Rossi Relays track meet?

Given today's climate, it is highly likely that someone just saw a wiener they didn't expect, and consider that assault.

so if you read closely, not all the dudes were naked. from what I can tell, it's implied that the guy who held him down was not naked, but other guys there were.

Conundrum wrote:

I_wasnt_there wrote:

Article says it was part of an initiation for the whole team.

This is why the whole team was punished. For all we know the six guys were told to do this by the team as part of the initiation.

It's funny what as adults we would never put with that we think it's ok for 19 and 20 year old kids to accept.

If 6 guys trespass into your home, hold you down, some naked, and stole a picture, I don't think you would care if they were laughing or not when they did it.

The coach has no idea this stuff is going on? .......no senior leadership either?

That team needs some community service to wake up.

Here as actual correct adult answer. A rarity for this MB.