any retard knows that it is specious reasoning to compare 1500s since they are often so tactical. there were 4min milers in the Heps race and it happened to go 4:15. does it mean that those runners are only 4:15 1500m runners? NO. Why not look at the 5000m results from '03.
D1 NCAA champs:
Finals
1 Alistair Cragg JR Arkansas 13:47.87 10
2 Louis Luchini JR Stanford 13:49.81 8
3 Robert Cheseret FR Arizona 13:52.17 6
4 Seth Hejny JR Stanford 13:52.27 5
5 Ed Moran JR William & Mary 13:54.46 4
6 Sean Graham SR William & Mary 13:58.39 3
7 Billy Nelson FR Colorado 13:58.91 2
8 Eric Logsdon SO Oregon 13:59.00 1
9 Luke Watson SR Notre Dame 13:59.46
10 Boaz Cheboiywo SR Eastern Michigan 13:59.72
and D3 results from the ncaa championships:
Men's 5,000 Meter
5000 Meter Run
1 Josh Moen, Jr, Wartburg College
14:40.11
Lindsay Stadium record
2 Marcus Murphy, Sr, Loras College
14:41.30
Betters old Lindsay Stadium record
3 Macharia Yuot, So, Widener University
14:51.30
4 Ted Turner, Jr, Geneseo S U N Y
14:54.21
5 Ryan Hochstetler, Sr,
Mount Union College 14:57.76
6 Dave Berdan, Sr, Elizabethtown College
14:58.19
7 David Haagsma, Sr, Calvin College
14:58.75
8 John LeRoy, Jr, Wisconsin Oshkosh
15:00.56
9 Matt Edwards, Sr, Calvin College
15:04.77
10 Dan Sutton, Sr, Wisconsin La Crosse
15:07.31
and yes Buttry and Moen are good. But two people don't save a whole division.