Second world record of the day! UTEP/Kenya's Michael Saruni runs 1:14.79 600

This is super impressive. I bet the Kenyan selectors who didn’t pick him for worlds are feeling pretty stupid right now. Dude is a huge talent.

"Technically" it's an off distance that many better runners never attempted. Just one minor little detail.

Bad Wigins wrote:

"Technically" it's an off distance that many better runners never attempted. Just one minor little detail.

That is the exact opposite of being technical, you annoying troll-oaf.

Exaggerating a WB as a WR is a completely legit target, it's out of control already. And look up "sarcasm."

The key to the record was the antelope-like leap at the finish!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlddKpKVXV4

the 800 pound gorilla in the room is Korir

question is, if he bothers to chase it, how close will he get to the 74s barrier ???

YMMV wrote: The key to the record was the antelope-like leap at the finish!

watching that video reminded of a line in Christopher McDougall's book, Born to Run (2009), "Antelope don't get shin splints," although I 've always wondered how McDougall would know that, we do at least finally understand why it might be true. plyometrics.

Cheers.

600m indoor WB has long been the weakest middle distance record.

When you have someone like Cas Loxom running 1:14.9 you have to consider the quality of that time.

1:14.8 is still weak, but nice run anyway.

Altitude assisted?

ex-runner wrote:

600m indoor WB has long been the weakest middle distance record.

When you have someone like Cas Loxom running 1:14.9 you have to consider the quality of that time.

1:14.8 is still weak, but nice run anyway.

Yes, I remember the same comments about Korir's performance last year. People were very unimpressed with it. Saying a whole bunch of negative things (for some reason).

Then Korir ran 1:43.10 last summer (the world leading time). Pretty good for an NCAA runner. Massive progression.

Now the same coach has a guy who is even faster in his hands.

Nunhnuhunh wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

600m indoor WB has long been the weakest middle distance record.

When you have someone like Cas Loxom running 1:14.9 you have to consider the quality of that time.

1:14.8 is still weak, but nice run anyway.

Yes, I remember the same comments about Korir's performance last year. People were very unimpressed with it. Saying a whole bunch of negative things (for some reason).

Then Korir ran 1:43.10 last summer (the world leading time). Pretty good for an NCAA runner. Massive progression.

Now the same coach has a guy who is even faster in his hands.

I never said he isn't a good runner. It's a great time and a good run. I'm sure he is 1:43/1:44 material. If not faster.

The point I'm making is where is Rudisha, where is Bosse on that 600m indoor list? It has not been attacked by the big names over the years and so is weak. The WR should be in the 1:13.5 region.

I don't remember Korir doing that well against the big boys when it mattered neither.

ex-runner wrote:

I never said he isn't a good runner. It's a great time and a good run. I'm sure he is 1:43/1:44 material. If not faster.

The point I'm making is where is Rudisha, where is Bosse on that 600m indoor list? It has not been attacked by the big names over the years and so is weak. The WR should be in the 1:13.5 region.

I don't remember Korir doing that well against the big boys when it mattered neither.

Really? Korir goes from 1:46.9 in 2016 to 1:43.10 in 2017. He wins NCAAs (indoor and outdoor), Kenyan trials, Monaco...

...and because he only makes it to the WC semi final in mid August, you are unimpressed. How fast are you?

BTW: Bosse's indoor best is 1:15.63. He only has a 400m best of 47.54. (Korir' best is 44.53 and Saruni's best is 45.69).

"Technically" it's an off distance that many better runners never attempted. Just one minor little detail.

True - but it's an impressive run, whatever.

What do people think the fastest 600 would be if some of the top 400/800 men had run it seriously when they were in top condition?

Anyone ever string three 24 second 200s together? Coe? Rudisha? Juantorena?

What is the outdoor best?

Looks like American legend Johnny Gray with 1:12.81

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/600_metres

That's three 24s...

Gybygggybyg wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

I never said he isn't a good runner. It's a great time and a good run. I'm sure he is 1:43/1:44 material. If not faster.

The point I'm making is where is Rudisha, where is Bosse on that 600m indoor list? It has not been attacked by the big names over the years and so is weak. The WR should be in the 1:13.5 region.

I don't remember Korir doing that well against the big boys when it mattered neither.

Really? Korir goes from 1:46.9 in 2016 to 1:43.10 in 2017. He wins NCAAs (indoor and outdoor), Kenyan trials, Monaco...

...and because he only makes it to the WC semi final in mid August, you are unimpressed. How fast are you?

BTW: Bosse's indoor best is 1:15.63. He only has a 400m best of 47.54. (Korir' best is 44.53 and Saruni's best is 45.69).

I don't think Bosse has run a 600 more than once, and that was 5 years ago when he was a teen. A better indicator is the outdoor 600 that he ran a couple of years ago....in 1:13.21!!! Now if Saruni ran faster than that indoors I would be impressed. Bosse has focused more on the 1000 than the 600 anyways which is why he has the speed endurance.

Gybygggybyg wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

I never said he isn't a good runner. It's a great time and a good run. I'm sure he is 1:43/1:44 material. If not faster.

The point I'm making is where is Rudisha, where is Bosse on that 600m indoor list? It has not been attacked by the big names over the years and so is weak. The WR should be in the 1:13.5 region.

I don't remember Korir doing that well against the big boys when it mattered neither.

Really? Korir goes from 1:46.9 in 2016 to 1:43.10 in 2017. He wins NCAAs (indoor and outdoor), Kenyan trials, Monaco...

...and because he only makes it to the WC semi final in mid August, you are unimpressed. How fast are you?

BTW: Bosse's indoor best is 1:15.63. He only has a 400m best of 47.54. (Korir' best is 44.53 and Saruni's best is 45.69).

This has nothing to do with how fast I am. Interesting of you to try and turn this into a personal issue.

It's also irrelevant how well he progressed in one year.

My statement was simply that his great time trial results mattered little when in a big championship.

As they rarely do.

I was correct and still am correct.

Yes Bosse's indoor best of 1:15.6 at 20 years old followed on from his 800m best that season of 1:45 or so. Even in the following outdoor season he ran 1:43.8 by late July.

Bosse ran 1:13.2 couple months before he didn't medal at the Olympics.

600m WB is weak indoors and out but especially indoors.

1:14.30

That is the time the Big Man passes 600m in the London 2012 final.

Ploioi wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

"Technically" it's an off distance that many better runners never attempted. Just one minor little detail.

That is the exact opposite of being technical, you annoying troll-oaf.

One minor little detail so stupid that it need not have been mentioned.

Great job!!!! I love the 600!!!

ex-runner wrote:

600m indoor WB has long been the weakest middle distance record.

When you have someone like Cas Loxom running 1:14.9 you have to consider the quality of that time.

1:14.8 is still weak, but nice run anyway.

There's nothing weak about. Clearly you were unable to achieve such weakness