Just for that, I am going to extend the wall to block out Spain too. And yes they are also going to pay for it!
Just for that, I am going to extend the wall to block out Spain too. And yes they are also going to pay for it!
Prob Peeing wrote:
She was probably peeing. If you’ve ever coached women this is normal.
That's even worse. Even Kap wouldn't do that.......altho Marshawn Lynch might.
This movie is unwatchable. It screams look at me. Plus it's Oregon and we all know their history
It has a name, it's called the Narcissist Knee.
And yes, deport Carmela Cardama Baez. The Spanish love to complain about Americans. It gives them a sense of moral high ground while the only thing they achieve is doping in sport.
cvoet55 wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
I know this country has a tradition of playing the national anthem at sporting events, but I’ve always been a little perturbed that it’s played right before a race during key warm up time. There’s already enough standing around for pomp and circumstance at big races. And then you have to stand at attention for a couples minutes when you normally would be getting in your last warm up drills before the race starts in often cold conditions.
Pro tip: Have the National Anthem like 15 minutes before the start to accommodate the runners and then do all the introductions and other crap. You’re welcome.
So true. I like being able to have finished my warmup and be on the line with 30 seconds left before, not a few minutes
Be that as it may, they do play the anthem at sporting events. Freedom of expression goes both ways. I like the anthem at sporting events and apparently many others do too or they wouldn't do it.
We are also free to express our disgust when people disrespect the anthem. They are free to kneel or give the middle finger to it, but we are free to say that is wrong. Nice try to change the subject and bring up talking points.
I’d rethink deporting her.
Katey B. wrote:
True red white and blue wrote:
Great to see even cross country kids engaging in their world. It hard to break from the norm and do something bold. This is what America was founded on, and making actions for what we believe in is what makes the future great. Kudos.
Like all of the great things that the Hippies accomplished in the 70's.
Being respectful to those who died for our great country is what should be taught.
I think you'll find some much more interesting dissonance if you go a littttttle bit further back in history. (Start with its founding.)
The whole disrespect to fallen soldiers or soldiers for that matter is entirely convoluted and a pretty self-absorbed response. The purpose of the protest was never without clarity. Why do people keep harping on something irrelevant? Cognitive issues? Ignorance? Poor listening? Don't cite some nonsense about the song. That's like saying Martin Luther King disrespected highways by marching on them.
Hounddogharrier wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bbo_uw-BCaJ/?taken-by=oregontfI’d rethink deporting her.
Lol. Agree. Keep her.
why is there a need to play the national anthem at domestic sporting events?
it didn't help, foreign borns won the races.
Hounddogharrier wrote:
I’d rethink deporting her.
The one you notice .
Tired of this wrote:
Prob Peeing wrote:
...probably peeing.. .
Peeing during the national anthem? That's worse than kneeling, which in my patriotic opinion is very disrespectful. There I said it. Don't pee during the national anthem. Or kneel. Choose another form of protest.
And yet they leave the bathrooms unlocked at ballparks and stadiums during the national anthem....
heard it all b4 wrote:
cvoet55 wrote:
So true. I like being able to have finished my warmup and be on the line with 30 seconds left before, not a few minutes
Be that as it may, they do play the anthem at sporting events. Freedom of expression goes both ways. I like the anthem at sporting events and apparently many others do too or they wouldn't do it.
We are also free to express our disgust when people disrespect the anthem. They are free to kneel or give the middle finger to it, but we are free to say that is wrong. Nice try to change the subject and bring up talking points.
Okay, here is a response related to your narrow view of the subject being discussed (as actual conversations with real people tend to splay beyond narrow subjects and into various other related topics, but message board dwellers usually don’t converse with real people). First of all, nobody here has any idea why this person was kneeling, are jumping to conclusions, and heaping unfair judgment onto this person without stopping to ask and listen. It seems like people have been brainwashed to respond in a canned manner without any attempt to listen and understand. It’s a wonderful troll attempt by the OP to get a visceral response on America’s greatest non-issue issue in recent memory.
Second of all, the problem with your argument is the false equivalency of the anthem protesters and those that choose criticize the protestors. It would be an equal argument if some of the critics were not threatening and intimidating the livelihoods and lives of the protestors, and any other threat under the sun. The anthem protestors are not threatening anyone, many are advocating for greater awareness of PROBLEMS and actively discussing ways to address these issues and improve their communities. They make people uncomfortable, but are not a threat. In many cases, the protest itself is backed up with action. Does that deserve outright threats and intimidation to nearly all aspects of their lives? Because the protestors have received more than disgust and criticism. Just in this thread, the perceived anthem protestor is being threatened with deportation, when we don’t even know why they are kneeling.
What I wonder is how many of these critics of the anthem protestors actually back up their moaning and grandstanding with action to support their law enforcement, the military, their community. What are they doing to make their community a better place? Or are they so hyped up with this fabrication that the flag and anthem and only represents a single idea, rather the spectrum of ideas and principles that have moved this country forward over the past 240 years?
Standing up to power in a non-violent manner will never be popular, it will never be easy, and their will always be critics that do nothing but moan and complain. I will pretty much always side with non-violent protestors on any issue, because I can understand the courage it takes to stand up when your life is threatened for taking peaceful action. I’m thrilled that people still care enough to do it. If it makes people like you uncomfortable and maybe reconsider how you interpret this issue, even better.
vivalarepublica wrote:
heard it all b4 wrote:
Be that as it may, they do play the anthem at sporting events. Freedom of expression goes both ways. I like the anthem at sporting events and apparently many others do too or they wouldn't do it.
We are also free to express our disgust when people disrespect the anthem. They are free to kneel or give the middle finger to it, but we are free to say that is wrong. Nice try to change the subject and bring up talking points.
Okay, here is a response related to your narrow view of the subject being discussed (as actual conversations with real people tend to splay beyond narrow subjects and into various other related topics, but message board dwellers usually don’t converse with real people). First of all, nobody here has any idea why this person was kneeling, are jumping to conclusions, and heaping unfair judgment onto this person without stopping to ask and listen. It seems like people have been brainwashed to respond in a canned manner without any attempt to listen and understand. It’s a wonderful troll attempt by the OP to get a visceral response on America’s greatest non-issue issue in recent memory.
Second of all, the problem with your argument is the false equivalency of the anthem protesters and those that choose criticize the protestors. It would be an equal argument if some of the critics were not threatening and intimidating the livelihoods and lives of the protestors, and any other threat under the sun. The anthem protestors are not threatening anyone, many are advocating for greater awareness of PROBLEMS and actively discussing ways to address these issues and improve their communities. They make people uncomfortable, but are not a threat. In many cases, the protest itself is backed up with action. Does that deserve outright threats and intimidation to nearly all aspects of their lives? Because the protestors have received more than disgust and criticism. Just in this thread, the perceived anthem protestor is being threatened with deportation, when we don’t even know why they are kneeling.
What I wonder is how many of these critics of the anthem protestors actually back up their moaning and grandstanding with action to support their law enforcement, the military, their community. What are they doing to make their community a better place? Or are they so hyped up with this fabrication that the flag and anthem and only represents a single idea, rather the spectrum of ideas and principles that have moved this country forward over the past 240 years?
Standing up to power in a non-violent manner will never be popular, it will never be easy, and their will always be critics that do nothing but moan and complain. I will pretty much always side with non-violent protestors on any issue, because I can understand the courage it takes to stand up when your life is threatened for taking peaceful action. I’m thrilled that people still care enough to do it. If it makes people like you uncomfortable and maybe reconsider how you interpret this issue, even better.
Bullet points, please. You know the average person here doesn't have the attention span to read all of that.
vivalarepublica wrote:
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I will pretty much always side with non-violent protestors on any issue, because I can understand the courage it takes to stand up when your life is threatened for taking peaceful action. I’m thrilled that people still care enough to do it. If it makes people like you uncomfortable and maybe reconsider how you interpret this issue, even better.
Great point. I expect to see you standing with us holding a sign at the next Pro Life rally outside your local baby killer clinic.
Terry Randall wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
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I will pretty much always side with non-violent protestors on any issue, because I can understand the courage it takes to stand up when your life is threatened for taking peaceful action. I’m thrilled that people still care enough to do it. If it makes people like you uncomfortable and maybe reconsider how you interpret this issue, even better.
Great point. I expect to see you standing with us holding a sign at the next Pro Life rally outside your local baby killer clinic.
I'm sure that as soon as pro-choice supporters start firebombing rallies outside abortion clinics, he'll be there.
Terry Randall wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
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I will pretty much always side with non-violent protestors on any issue, because I can understand the courage it takes to stand up when your life is threatened for taking peaceful action. I’m thrilled that people still care enough to do it. If it makes people like you uncomfortable and maybe reconsider how you interpret this issue, even better.
Great point. I expect to see you standing with us holding a sign at the next Pro Life rally outside your local baby killer clinic.
I don’t condone threats, intimidation, fear, and shame as a protest tactic.
If that’s the best you could do, you know I made some good points then. I’m not diving into his abortion argument crap.
vivalarepublica wrote:
heard it all b4 wrote:
Be that as it may, they do play the anthem at sporting events. Freedom of expression goes both ways. I like the anthem at sporting events and apparently many others do too or they wouldn't do it.
We are also free to express our disgust when people disrespect the anthem. They are free to kneel or give the middle finger to it, but we are free to say that is wrong. Nice try to change the subject and bring up talking points.
Okay, here is a response related to your narrow view of the subject being discussed (as actual conversations with real people tend to splay beyond narrow subjects and into various other related topics, but message board dwellers usually don’t converse with real people). First of all, nobody here has any idea why this person was kneeling, are jumping to conclusions, and heaping unfair judgment onto this person without stopping to ask and listen. It seems like people have been brainwashed to respond in a canned manner without any attempt to listen and understand. It’s a wonderful troll attempt by the OP to get a visceral response on America’s greatest non-issue issue in recent memory.
Second of all, the problem with your argument is the false equivalency of the anthem protesters and those that choose criticize the protestors. It would be an equal argument if some of the critics were not threatening and intimidating the livelihoods and lives of the protestors, and any other threat under the sun. The anthem protestors are not threatening anyone, many are advocating for greater awareness of PROBLEMS and actively discussing ways to address these issues and improve their communities. They make people uncomfortable, but are not a threat. In many cases, the protest itself is backed up with action. Does that deserve outright threats and intimidation to nearly all aspects of their lives? Because the protestors have received more than disgust and criticism. Just in this thread, the perceived anthem protestor is being threatened with deportation, when we don’t even know why they are kneeling.
What I wonder is how many of these critics of the anthem protestors actually back up their moaning and grandstanding with action to support their law enforcement, the military, their community. What are they doing to make their community a better place? Or are they so hyped up with this fabrication that the flag and anthem and only represents a single idea, rather the spectrum of ideas and principles that have moved this country forward over the past 240 years?
Standing up to power in a non-violent manner will never be popular, it will never be easy, and their will always be critics that do nothing but moan and complain. I will pretty much always side with non-violent protestors on any issue, because I can understand the courage it takes to stand up when your life is threatened for taking peaceful action. I’m thrilled that people still care enough to do it. If it makes people like you uncomfortable and maybe reconsider how you interpret this issue, even better.
Seeking attention - just like the Oregon girls in that video, so cringe.
That is the most annoying video I have ever watched.