Want to buy Nike products at your local running store? Soon you won't be able to.

Not inquiring wrote:

Inquirer wrote:

Why do you think that is?

What are you getting at? I don't know why that is? They don't want to compete in cycling goods?

Do people here buy shoes on Amazon or do they go to runningwarehouse? I go to runningwarehouse and suspect most people on this website do too.

I’m genuinely curious why prices would be more online. It’s counterintuitive, at least compared to the local bike shops.

I also buy my shoes mostly from

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Never said that.

I’m genuinely curious why prices would be more online. It’s counterintuitive, at least compared to the local bike shops.

Meant local plus online bike specific shops. Like jensonusa (runningwarehouse-like for bike parts). Better prices and selection their compared to Amazon. Usually a small Mom and Pop bike store will be more expensive. Many online places have brickand mortar presence.

Scapers wrote:

You are terribly mistaken to think that internet websites with forums and brick and mortar stores are equally outdated. It is an awful comparison from someone with no business acumen, and that’s as nicely as I can put it.

Nah dude, forums are less and less popular by the day. Your logic is that this site is not just a forum but a running info site as well but the info portion of the site is even more obsolete than the forum. No one visits sites like this for news anymore, they follow the actual sources on twitter, fb, etc. The news section is pretty much just an outlet for SEO content and links to share on social media. The forum itself is not fully obsolete because some people still like to be a part of online communities (just like some people still like to shop brick and mortar) but they are still far less popular than they were 10 years ago. I was just saying this in another thread yesterday but why do you think brojos allow for anonymous posting even though it turns the quality of the discussion to sht? Because people won't even bother to create an account these days.

They don’t require registration because it would reduce traffic.

I didn’t say that Internet forums are in the peak of their popularity - I said that they aren’t comparable to brick and mortar stores which are in their doldrums. Anyone with a pulse on trends can see that.

Scapers wrote:

They don’t require registration because it would reduce traffic.

I didn’t say that Internet forums are in the peak of their popularity - I said that they aren’t comparable to brick and mortar stores which are in their doldrums. Anyone with a pulse on trends can see that.

This seems like its going over your head or something. Forums are regressing more and more just the same as brick and mortar are regressing more and more. Some forums are still successful (ie reddit) while most are headed to the sh**ter. Same goes for brick n mortar. Both are outdated and being cast aside for more modern options. Obviously you can nitpick differences but they are still headed the same direction and it's a reasonable comparison.

I have no interest in buying any Nike products regardless of where ghey are sold.

Its called Price Control. Meaning we pay more. Nike items are not allowed to go on sale at Kohls.

Not inquiring wrote:

Inquirer wrote:

Why do you think that is?

What are you getting at? I don't know why that is? They don't want to compete in cycling goods?

Do people here buy shoes on Amazon or do they go to runningwarehouse? I go to runningwarehouse and suspect most people on this website do too.

My family of 4 buys our running shoes at Nike Outlet, RunningWarehouse, Amazon, and a few other online stores. I bought 4 pair of Brooks Ghost 8 for about $55 each from Dick's Sporting Goods online last year. RunningWarehouse may have about the best prices if you catch the shoe you want as it reaches the end of its model lifecycle but I have seen the prices go back up on some shoes and then there is the issue of running out of the size one needs. RunningWarehouse's price on Saucony Echelon is $50 but only in 6B. Others are $130. I have always found the best price for these in the size I need for one of my children on Amazon. So it is hit and miss on size for clearance prices on some shoes or full price for ones in stock. I recently bought Adidas Boston 6 for $84 - $15 from Adidas eBay store and from Adidas.com for $84 - 20% coupon code. I bought Adidas Supernova shoes from Adidas eBay Store for $75 - $15 paypal promotion. I discovered that their eBay store had the Supernova in a color not found at Adidas.com for a cheaper price than other Supernova colors at Adidas.com I did buy two pair of Pegasus from Nike Outlet store for $35 each for my wife but there were probably the last two they had in the store of that color (pink) and model. Another time I bought Nike Terra Kiger for $25 from Nike Outlet. These too were likely the last in the store.

It is not a model they even have ever sold in mass so I am not how they ended up in the store.

Most times I have been to the Outlet I have not found any super deals like these. If the store were closer to me I might check weekly and may find more deals. Normally the Pegasus are$80 in the outlet and I found them cheaper at Nike.com when they had a limited time 20% additional off promotion. Adidas has 15% at their online store all the time if you register with a new e-mail address. My local Adidas Outlet has a very limited selection of running shoes so I have never purchase shoes from them. There are many Nike shoes recommend in the forums here that I have never seen in my outlet store. Most are the highly recommended, lighter weight, Nike shoes that runners recommend for races. I stopped searching for shoes at my local specialty running stores because they almost never have the model I want in my running shoe size, 13, or they don't sell the model at all. If they did have them they would be priced at full retail of $120 or more. With easy, free returns at

Outlet, Adidas.com, and Amazon I don't mind trying them on and returning if they do not fit. I have used Shoekicker.com at times to search for shoes but lately they indicate the shoes are available in sizes that are not actually available at the stated price once I go to the seller's site such as RunningWarehouse or Amazon.

trampoline wrote:

This seems like its going over your head or something. Forums are regressing more and more just the same as brick and mortar are regressing more and more. Some forums are still successful (ie reddit) while most are headed to the sh**ter. Same goes for brick n mortar. Both are outdated and being cast aside for more modern options. Obviously you can nitpick differences but they are still headed the same direction and it's a reasonable comparison.

No they aren’t headed in the same direction, no most forums are not headed to the sh**ter, and no it’s not a reasonable comparison.

I’ve been on LetsRun since 2000 and have never created account.

Besides, you’re trying to argue that they are both dying businesses which could very well be true, but not the point others were making.

The point others were making was that a business that can be wholly obviated by the advent of the internet is in a much worse position than a business that exists solely on the internet.

And without fact checking, I’m positive running stores didn’t peak in 2006. When talking an existential issue such as business model viability, you have to look at % market share of that form of consumerism when compared to the industry’s consumer behavior as a whole. So, essentially, what you’re saying is that long after the internet and direct-to-consumer competitors were booming, running specialty stores somehow peaked in market share in the midst of all that.

In conclusion, it is still a horrible parallel because they may be both past their prime, but at different stages of the life cycle.

Hatnearrin Blacklight wrote:

I haven't run in Nike shoes for years.

Phew, I was worried Nike was going to upset you. Thank you for making it so easy.

The macro perspective on this issue is the developing vogue in the past 40 years that there should be no regulation of collusion between manufacturing, distribution, and mega-retailers. Conventional wisdom is that mega-retailers deliver low prices and that price is the only issue at hand relative to the public good. The truth is more complicated for those who care to look into it. At the micro level, individual choice, the stability of local economies, and the rights of workers at every stage (from manufacturing to distribution to sales) are not well-served by monopoly and collusion.

If I understand this correctly, the idea is that they have such a huge stake-hold that they think people will continue to buy from them directly at a higher margin which will outweigh the market share loss. Since this will reduce traffic through local running shops, the idea is to kill the running specific competitors like Brooks. They're trying to end the local running shops before we go full lycra lifestyle like cyclists and their products can't keep up. Cocky, but they're probably right since the market is driven by students and their parents who just want to be like Mike.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em

So people that dont live in a big city wont be able to try on nike shoes before buying them? Its fine for me, i know i like pegasus in 10.5 but who knows what size my daughter needs when she gets new shoes

Yep, the Clearance stores are amazing.. much different than the Outlet stores.

It certainly is not going to hurt them much, if at all. Take a look at everyone in your gym. Most of them are currently wearing Nikes. These are the type of people Nike is hoping will continue to buy from them, and they most likely will, since they're the type of people who will overpay for a fashion accessory. Sure, there will be some people at the margin who cannot buy the shoes they used to like, but they'll probably buy a cheaper model, if offered.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

dbsquirt21 wrote:

This cant be true. That would be beyond stupid.

I don't think it's that stupid. I had a great experience at my local Foot Locker when looking for new shoes. Told the salesperson that I ran and did about 60 miles per week. He immediately recommended the latest version of Nike Shox and explained how the shock effect would help both reduce impact and propel me forward. That was 300 miles ago. Best pair of running shoes I have ever owned.

Hahahaha dude that story is a prime example of why this is a horrible move, how may times have you seen a decent respectably fast runner training in Nike Shox??? "300 miles ago", I just hit 1,000 on my Nike Air Peg 31s, if the employee knew what he was talking about he would've brought out Pegs, LTs, etc. something specific for your training, not the shoes my fcking dads been wearing since 2009.

Nike is making these drastic changes because it is suffering. From run specialty to DSW, Nike is slowly losing their edge and this is their arrogant way of cutting out the people that don’t present them as the best brand on the planet (just like somebody else we know). It is also their way of trying to manage supply and demand because Nike is heavily promotional in the marketplace because not that many people want their shoes right now. I have worked in the industry for over 10 years and Nike doesn’t like being #2. They actually think something is wrong with the retailer if they are not #1. I say let Nike pull out whatever retailers they want, it will only boast companies like Hoka, Brooks, etc. They make better shoes anyways and they care more about runners and the community. The fact if the matter is, Nike is not cool. The younger generation doesn’t even know who Michael Jordan is nor would they care if they did because they are not looking to athletes for their footwear/clothing stimulus. The younger generation also isn’t impressed with seeing dads wearing Pegasus’ that they bought for 40% at pick your store. Letsrun should take note of all that is going on. If you don’t change, you put yourself at risk (at least Nike is doing that).

Think about your relationship with Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft. They own us. They control how we work, how we communicate, how we think. Much of what we do is programmed behavior to benefit huge corporations.

Giant tech corporations are now more powerful than most governments. The nation-state fades in importance at this stage. Hi-tech big bro takes over.