Me Too campaign is a failure for including sexual harassment

we should raise awareness to the mass murder of men. men die much earlier than women equating in what is basically mass murder or genocide. some little harassment that women have to endure is really nothing compared

So can guys post "Me too" or is that gonna make people mad? I was assaulted as a kid by an adult woman. And I was bullied in school for being gay, including multiple incidents of sexual assault. By boys and girls.

equity in movement? wrote:

So can guys post "Me too" or is that gonna make people mad? I was assaulted as a kid by an adult woman. And I was bullied in school for being gay, including multiple incidents of sexual assault. By boys and girls.

Of course not. It's people that hold power (even if that power is just a size advantage over someone else or a job) feeling like their entitled to something because of that power (even if it's just the comfort of being skeezie and feeling entitled to that and disregarding the discomfort it brings someone else.) For example...no one is mad at Terry Crews...

equity in movement? wrote:

So can guys post "Me too" or is that gonna make people mad? I was assaulted as a kid by an adult woman. And I was bullied in school for being gay, including multiple incidents of sexual assault. By boys and girls.

I've seen guys posting "me too" on fb as well and explaining why.

I don't disagree with any of this. The reason I think it is ineffective is that people KNOW that every woman has been sexually harassed, at some point. No one's happy about it. But if the purpose is to "raise awareness," it's like raising awareness that grass is green.[/quote]

Yes, exactly.

I don't disagree with you, Roy, but that isn't the point. The campaign isn't bad or wrong, it's simply a failure. It went too broad. It would be 100x's more powerful if it had narrowed its scope.

Truth is virtually every living person has been sexually harassed. Every single one of us could post "Me too," which leaves us with a watered-down version of something that could have been great.[/quote]

But if you throw up your hands at sexual harassment as just being a part of life, you will never be able to do anything about sexual assault. Sexual assault is generally able to exist in an environment that is permissive about sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is often just testing the waters for sexual assault. If you can get away with telling a woman that you want to see her naked, then what is to stop you from getting away trying to force her into having sex? You can already go to jail for sexual assault. It is not like there needs to be a change in the law. Yet, many women do not report sexual assault because the general environment around them is very permissive when it comes to sexual harassment. It is a boy's club/frat boy dominated world for these women. Sexual harassment is tolerated and victims of sexual assault feel powerless as a result. You cannot get rid of one without getting rid of the other.

WTFBBQ wrote:

David S. Pumpkins wrote:

A bunch of men on the internet minimizing women's feelings and life experiences is exactly the sort of thing the campaign is trying to draw attention to.

I agree.

Women I've spoken to have applauded it.

I also can't believe a bunch of runners are equating their running experiences to harassment women face. I shouldn't be surprised by the childishness of the men on this site but I still am.

NONE OF US KNOW what women face every day. Instead of belittling, why not try to understand?

As a straight white male I feel like I at least have a slight ability to equate my experience running to the "harassment women face" when a car swerves at me and two big gruff men yell "f@ggot" at me right before they throw bottles and cans. I think men wearing six inch split shorts without a shirt probably get yelled at by the same men that feel they can demand a woman's time like an above poster referenced. And don't get me started on the amount of times I see people of all ages, shapes, colors, and genders point a smartphone camera in my direction when I'm stopped at a red light. I know they aren't sending that picture to their friend's with a complimentary caption.

I think it would be more impactful if they called out the men who assaulted/harassed them. I wonder how many LRers would get called out.

I think Damon brought up some good points. Now he's trashed because "the micro becomes the macro".

If no spectrum, go back to life in prison for stealing bread. Or cut their arms off for petty theft, like medieval times.

Yes, because it is not harassment if they want it. It is based on individual (tacit or explicit) consent. There will be disagreements about what can be done, but you can go through a step by step procedure to know, not just do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpwJE5DEk7U