The OP addressed his question to Rupp haters. Why do so many Rupp lovers feel the need to respond?
The OP addressed his question to Rupp haters. Why do so many Rupp lovers feel the need to respond?
Galen Rupp has never won a race off of American Soil!
He has never won an international race. Not on the track, road, etc.
And people are saying this dude is top 10?
HE couldn't hold Deena Kastor's bra strap!
zxcvzxcv wrote:
The 10000m time of Rupp is very fast but the 10 is hardly ever run at the elite level outside of championships now, which is why his time has stood up.
Added to the excuse list.
scorpion_runner wrote:
Galen Rupp has never won a race off of American Soil!
Added to the excuse list. So far we got:
1. But he primarily races in America!
2. Not enough 10Ks!
3. Muh drugs!
scorpion_runner wrote:
He has never won an international race. Not on the track, road, etc.
You must have been LIVID watching him WIN the Pre Classic 10K. What I'd pay to see your face!
scorpion_runner wrote:
And people are saying this dude is top 10?
Name 10 current runners who have run 26:44.
Crickets.
scorpion_runner wrote:
HE couldn't hold Deena Kastor's bra strap!
Rupp 2 Olympic medals. Deena 1.
Ingelrek wrote:
Donyiyo wrote:😂😂😂 true! Not to mention that guy was a notorious heel striker!! 😂😂😂😂
And barely beat Dick Beardsley at Boston, whose 10k PR was about 2 minutes slower than Salazar's.
Alberto has cooked his testosterone levels, hmmm 🤔. Galen, thyroid meds to lift testosterone, hmmm 🤔
Rocket Fuel Rick wrote:
It doesnt bother me one bit personally, but I think you're forgetting that he was on a "likely doping" list reference the Fancy Bear's hacked WADA suspicious/likely doping documents.
Rupp's listed as "likely doping" with a 3-star (+++) priority status....not quite up there with Jager's 5-star performance (+++++). 😄 ✔
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/07/say-aint-fancy-bears-hack-reveal-many-track-fields-biggest-stars-likely-doping-see-latest-fancy-bears-documents/
In doping suspicion scores, Rupp is a mediocre motel. Compared with Jager, who is the Ritz-Carlton of world athletics. Oops, double entendre. 😉
rupp-certified saladbra wrote:
Anyone who follows the sport knows that the track 10,000 has been piss-weak for years, far over a decade in fact
exactly
in '11, when rupp ran then AR of 26'48, he got beaten by some 3rd rate Kenyan who ran 26'43 & was full of running trying to run away from kennster in last 2 laps
if a 3rd rate Kenyan coud run 26'43 & probably more like 26'35 if he'd run flat-out from gun, it shows what top Kenyan 10k guys coud run in a flat-out run instead of letting mo jog'n'kick for win
All of the talent is racing the half-marathon and marathon on the roads, for real money, not time-trialing 10,000s (which would have nearly zero benefit to most East African runners)
exactly
Look, 26:4x is not fast for current HM/marathon elites
exactly
Ever heard of Josphat Menjo? When that relative unknown and unaccomplished runner decided to TT a 10,000 by himself in Finland some years ago, he dropped a 26:56 totally solo, lapping club runners over and over. He must have been pretty good with that ability, right?
no drafting for 5k woud be worth at ~ 0.7s lap for 12.5 laps ~ 8.75s
lapping slow guys on bends, call it for last 5k, an extra 1.5m/lap for wide bend running ( far from generous ) -> 1.5 x 12.5 = 18.75m, which at 27'00 flat pace is ~ 3s
that means Menjo, without accounting for any uneven-pace ! & windy day, just having drafting to 5k & not having to lap guys in such low quality field, shouda been looking at
~ 26'56 - 8.75 - 3 = ~ 26'44
So what else did our man Menjo do? 8th at WC. And he never broke 12:55 in the 5000 or 1:01 in the HM. Do you think a large crop of 2:03-2:05 guys aren't 10 seconds quicker over 10k than Menjo, who with his obvious sub-26:50 ability could barely make two Kenyan teams in his whole career?
exactly
The fact that Rupp, a 60+ HM runner who is useless in the 5000, has the world's best 10,000 time in years just proves how crap the 10,000 has become
this i disagree with
rupp on his 26'44 day had slow pace to 9k & sal said correctly with better pacing shouda run 26'35
given any semblance of that 3'50 indoor speed on that 10k day, he shouda been good for 12'45 - 12'50, in the company of those 6 guys who ran 12'46/12'49 in paris-'12
sniffles macghee wrote:
silver medal
bronze medal
that's tough to get and not even bad if you are over-rated.
maybe if people just rated him on par with his abilities, he'd be rated as a multiple-time Olympic medal winner and not "the end-all hope for dominance in every distance event he participates in - gold medals only!"
get a life
Donyiyo wrote:Not a bit since he was beaten where it most matters, in the olympics over the same distance not once but twice making his faster 10 k time useless. In the marathon his best time 2:09:58?
I don't hate him, G-d forbid, but for a guy like me who has been following long distance running since 1976, I would say he is the best among the Americans but among the rest in the world...overrated.
This is easy to settle. Why he chose to run Chicago instead of Berlin? It’s called ducking the competition, same as he did in Boston. Who needs to get a life now kiddo?
It is precisely because he's the best 10,000 runner in the world that he is, and should be, mercilessly mocked for his marathon career. He targets B races in Chicago and the olympics. He's probably not even in the top 20, and if the Kenyans he beat at 10,000 move up, they'll beat him at marathon too.
He should go back to 10,000, an event he can WIN.
Bad Wigins wrote:
It is precisely because he's the best 10,000 runner in the world that he is, and should be, mercilessly mocked for his marathon career. He targets B races in Chicago and the olympics. He's probably not even in the top 20, and if the Kenyans he beat at 10,000 move up, they'll beat him at marathon too.
He should go back to 10,000, an event he can WIN.
Finally I can agree with somebody here!
Donyiyo wrote:
sniffles macghee wrote:silver medal
bronze medal
that's tough to get and not even bad if you are over-rated.
maybe if people just rated him on par with his abilities, he'd be rated as a multiple-time Olympic medal winner and not "the end-all hope for dominance in every distance event he participates in - gold medals only!"
get a life
This is easy to settle. Why he chose to run Chicago instead of Berlin? It’s called ducking the competition, same as he did in Boston. Who needs to get a life now kiddo?
LOL there you have it folks. Only on Letsrun is the Olympic marathon considered a B race. Was Kipchoge ducking the competition in Berlin last year when he decided to run the Olympics?
white girl appropriating ghetto culture wrote:
rupp-certified saladbra wrote:It doesn't bother me at all. He is welcome to his Special O ribbon.
Anyone who follows the sport knows that the track 10,000 has been piss-weak for years, far over a decade in fact.
All of the talent is racing the half-marathon and marathon on the roads, for real money, not time-trialing 10,000s (which would have nearly zero benefit to most East African runners).
Look, 26:4x is not fast for current HM/marathon elites.
Ever heard of Josphat Menjo? When that relative unknown and unaccomplished runner decided to TT a 10,000 by himself in Finland some years ago, he dropped a 26:56 totally solo, lapping club runners over and over. He must have been pretty good with that ability, right?
So what else did our man Menjo do? 8th at WC. And he never broke 12:55 in the 5000 or 1:01 in the HM. Do you think a large crop of 2:03-2:05 guys aren't 10 seconds quicker over 10k than Menjo, who with his obvious sub-26:50 ability could barely make two Kenyan teams in his whole career?
The fact that Rupp, a 60+ HM runner who is useless in the 5000, has the world's best 10,000 time in years just proves how crap the 10,000 has become.
Rupp has two Olympic medals. Mejo has zero. Rupp's best is 26:44. Mejo's is 26:56. Mejo's best finish at the World Championships is 8th. This year he went out in the heats in the 5000m. Even Rupp had no trouble making the 5000m final multiple times.
You are proving my point. You realize that, right? By arguing that Menjo didn't hack it on the global elite level, you are literally making my argument for me.
By pointing out how weak Menjo is, AND THAT HE RAN 26:56, you are completing supporting my point that 26:44 is a piss-weak world lead. Menjo's 26:56 came in a solo time-trial lapping masters runners in rural Finland. Rupp's 26:44 was the best he could manage in multiple Saladbar-certified attempts. YAWN, 26:44. Literally every 2:05 guy ever could do that. A 60+ half marathon is also trifling to the global elite.
And yes, we all known that Rupp has two Olympic medals. No coincidence that his Olympic medals are in piss-weak events where most of the world's elite talent isn't even in the race.
Beautiful Day wrote:
How much does it bother Rupp lovers that Galen hasn't run a marathon faster than this guy?
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/alberto-salazar-runs-in-the-runners-world-five-mile-invitational-race-picture-id480978730?s=594x594
Wow his form is terrible
Results show that a top-5 finish at the London or Berlin marathon is a greater accomplishment than a bronze medal in the Olympic marathon.
Galen Rupp is great for the 1970s.
Donyiyo wrote:
This is easy to settle. Why he chose to run Chicago instead of Berlin? It’s called ducking the competition, same as he did in Boston. Who needs to get a life now kiddo?
Rupp:
- COMPLAINS he has only had 2:10 races so can't show his true 2:06 ability.
- Chooses to DUCK Berlin, a race with multiple sub 2:05 runners and countless sub-2:10 runners.
- Races the WEAKEST Chicago field in history.
- SITS on the leaders until 23 miles, doing 2:10 pace.
- Runs 2:09.
calculo wrote:
rupp-certified saladbra wrote:Anyone who follows the sport knows that the track 10,000 has been piss-weak for years, far over a decade in fact
exactly
in '11, when rupp ran then AR of 26'48, he got beaten by some 3rd rate Kenyan who ran 26'43 & was full of running trying to run away from kennster in last 2 laps
if a 3rd rate Kenyan coud run 26'43 & probably more like 26'35 if he'd run flat-out from gun, it shows what top Kenyan 10k guys coud run in a flat-out run instead of letting mo jog'n'kick for win
All of the talent is racing the half-marathon and marathon on the roads, for real money, not time-trialing 10,000s (which would have nearly zero benefit to most East African runners)
exactly
Look, 26:4x is not fast for current HM/marathon elites
exactly
Ever heard of Josphat Menjo? When that relative unknown and unaccomplished runner decided to TT a 10,000 by himself in Finland some years ago, he dropped a 26:56 totally solo, lapping club runners over and over. He must have been pretty good with that ability, right?
no drafting for 5k woud be worth at ~ 0.7s lap for 12.5 laps ~ 8.75s
lapping slow guys on bends, call it for last 5k, an extra 1.5m/lap for wide bend running ( far from generous ) -> 1.5 x 12.5 = 18.75m, which at 27'00 flat pace is ~ 3s
that means Menjo, without accounting for any uneven-pace ! & windy day, just having drafting to 5k & not having to lap guys in such low quality field, shouda been looking at
~ 26'56 - 8.75 - 3 = ~ 26'44
So what else did our man Menjo do? 8th at WC. And he never broke 12:55 in the 5000 or 1:01 in the HM. Do you think a large crop of 2:03-2:05 guys aren't 10 seconds quicker over 10k than Menjo, who with his obvious sub-26:50 ability could barely make two Kenyan teams in his whole career?
exactly
The fact that Rupp, a 60+ HM runner who is useless in the 5000, has the world's best 10,000 time in years just proves how crap the 10,000 has become
this i disagree with
rupp on his 26'44 day had slow pace to 9k & sal said correctly with better pacing shouda run 26'35
given any semblance of that 3'50 indoor speed on that 10k day, he shouda been good for 12'45 - 12'50, in the company of those 6 guys who ran 12'46/12'49 in paris-'12
Smart post. I think you are right that Rupp could have run a much faster 5000 if he had ever put it together. For a while he was in a lot of 12:5x races and either dropped out or ran 13:0x.
He just didn't seem to have the courage to get on that pace early.
Rupp can't "even" beat this guy's time either
http://www.qhatlas.com.au/sites/default/files/imagecache/Large/RMR108.JPG
"sorry" Rupp lovers!
white girl appropriating ghetto culture wrote:
scorpion_runner wrote:And people are saying this dude is top 10?
Name 10 current runners who have run 26:44.
Crickets.
Name 10 current runners worth talking about who have raced multiple personally curated 10,000m time-trials on the track.
Crickets.
Most runners with 58:xx-59:xx or 2:03-2:05:xx ability simply couldn't be bothered to chase times in the 10,000 like Rupp.
FFS, JOSPHAT MENJO, a C-list Kenyan who never managed much of note, ran a 26:56 while lapping masters and schoolchildren in rural Finland. He also raced 12:55 just 10 days before, obviously at the same fitness. YAWN. The guy could barely break 1:02 in a half marathon! That's what it took for Menjo to put down a Rupp-PR-level 10,000 on the track. 12:55/1:01 ability. YAWN.
26:44 is piddling to the 2:03-2:05 list. Put up a $10,000 guarantee to anyone running that in April and you'll be out $100,000 by Patriot's Day.
whats his excuses for being a 28 low 10k guy now and jogging 35k at 2:11 pace then guess what....wait for it....dropping to 28 low 10k pace for the last 4.5 miles
his 10k doesnt bother me at all...as many have said its weak considering he is 30 seconds off the record. and all you rupp lovers have to do is go watch solinsky beat him to sub 27 first and see him get all sad and temper tantrum haha that sh*t makes me smile, what a tool
he got dragged to a 26:44 while on the sauce, now he is off and all he can do is muster 28 low 10k pace, and run 62 for the half and 2:09 for the marathon. and for all those who say gatlin has the residual effects of PEDs and thats how he can maintain, well it just proves how much more talent gatlin has than rupp, cause off the sauce ruppy poop is slightly better than wejo
mindweak wrote:
whats his excuses for being a 28 low 10k guy now and jogging 35k at 2:11 pace then guess what....wait for it....dropping to 28 low 10k pace for the last 4.5 miles
his 10k doesnt bother me at all...as many have said its weak considering he is 30 seconds off the record. and all you rupp lovers have to do is go watch solinsky beat him to sub 27 first and see him get all sad and temper tantrum haha that sh*t makes me smile, what a tool
he got dragged to a 26:44 while on the sauce, now he is off and all he can do is muster 28 low 10k pace, and run 62 for the half and 2:09 for the marathon. and for all those who say gatlin has the residual effects of PEDs and thats how he can maintain, well it just proves how much more talent gatlin has than rupp, cause off the sauce ruppy poop is slightly better than wejo
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