Arkansas win 37-47 against Colorado......school of mines!!!!

RNGesus wrote:

[quote]Coahc wrote:

Rojo both arkansas teams didn't beat anyone of note! Arkansas back in the day were amazing. This was the team that everyone had their eyes on back in the late 80's. Now the team is made up of Australian's, brits, and kenyan's! Why don't they get any very good American runner's anymore. That is the question that I ask?

"Arkansas has long had a stable of Brits, Irish, a few Kenyans here and that (Frank O'Mara, Boit, etc)."

-If you're going to critique the work of others, make sure your own is water tight.

The problem with old people who remember what happened 30-40 years ago is that they often live in the past. I know, I'm one of them and have been a Hog fan since the early 80's and yes, they have the most incredible record in running cc/t&f of any University. Don't believe it? Just go stand in front of their trophy case at their indoor facility, take in the Tyson Indoor meet and go check out one of two IAAF certified outdoor facilities in the country.

Coach M. Hand picked Coach Bucknam. He has consistently brought home SEC Championships and national trophies albeit not all gold. That are still one of the most respected programs for what they are currently doing against an overall better field of competition than what was available in the 80s and 90s. Coach M showed other coaches what was possible with 12 scholarships. Distance guys and jumpers with a few sprinters thrown in. Coach B and his awesome staff are accomplishing a lot with a more diverse program. They had some bad luck the last couple years at NCAA track it probably would have pulled out victories but that happens to others as well. Just part of the game.

Florida, Texas AM, Oregon, Arkansas and who else consistently challenge in track and field every year? LSU? Cross Country:. Oregon, Colorado, Arkansas, Stanford, Wisconsin? Most people are just now noticing NAU but they've taken home several trophies since 87 and are always good.

So which school is still repeated most in both T&F/CC on the same 12+ scholarships? Always in the picture in both?

One: Arkansas!!!! Go Hogs! Soo Pig!!!

Arkansas gave top recruits families free chicken mcnuggets for signing, where's the FBI now?

Looks like Bucknell needs to focus a little more on his XC team if they are barely beating the DII guys. How can a storied program like Arkansas have absolutely no depth? Do the 8-15th guys on the team even do long runs?

Unfortunately, for most of you armchair coaches, you don't understand how hard winning is. Then you only guess and have no facts just to stir the pot. You are not fans or students of coaching. Just critics comparing past results to current winning results and still are miserable. It must suck to suck?

8th guy for Arkansas was 32:28 yesterday. Just wow

Would have been the 10th guy if you factor in the two freshman who ran 30:29 unattached

Grizzled Coach... wrote:

Unfortunately, for most of you armchair coaches, you don't understand how hard winning is. Then you only guess and have no facts just to stir the pot. You are not fans or students of coaching. Just critics comparing past results to current winning results and still are miserable. It must suck to suck?

We just won. We found a way to make it happen. If we didn't, Monday was going to be BAD. You might even get a chair thrown at you (or near you). And for the record, no one here is miserable, big boy.

Spot on! J Mac rode out front and others emulated. More parity now, better educated coaches. Harder to make NCAA final in any event now. Old Hogs seem pretty salty. Triple Crowns ain't easy to come by fools.

You don't read much....

It takes five, not 8. They won, already obvious.

Obviously, you aren't paying attention or understand. Bye.

Even with two solid redshirts, sitting one top guy, Arkansas' depth is nothing short of embarrassing. This program should have 5 walk-ons running sub 32 min 10ks. Where are they? What has the current leadership done to McDonnell's stellar legacy?

He is making an A with his hands. He has a tradition to throw the A up for Arkansas during a win.

Pigzui wrote:

Even with two solid redshirts, sitting one top guy, Arkansas' depth is nothing short of embarrassing. This program should have 5 walk-ons running sub 32 min 10ks. Where are they? What has the current leadership done to McDonnell's stellar legacy?

There were walk ons running far faster than that in the McDonnell era. As a competing rival, it was daunting, to say the least. I'm not kidding when I say that they could have finished top 2 at least one year in there were they able to run 2 teams. That's not an exaggeration. It might have been Baker's senior year, but I can't be sure.

rojo wrote:

PS. Can someone please tell me what the heck George is doing with his hands?

He’s clearly showing his love for my hit movie Edward Scissorhands.

Read the article. Two red shirts (or not) got 9th and 10th. Count those in team score and AR is down to 27pts. Hopefully Ronoh can get over his injury too. Suck it Coach's poll, there's your missing depth.

Coach M showed other coaches what was possible with 12 scholarships

Ha ha ha. You think McDonnell only had 12.6 guys on scholarship?

This is not a rare occurrence for a lower tier school to be competitive with Arkansas, as Blinn CC used to go neck and neck with Arkansas even when they were in their heyday (albeit they did it with almost 100% Kenyans). What is most impressive is mines did it with 3 kids from Colorado, 1 from Michigan and 1 from Arizona. Mines has done a very good job of building up a program that was once very mediocre solely by developing talent. You look at the state of Colorado as a whole, there are three Division 1 programs and 4 division 2 programs that are all worthy of top 25 rankings in their respective divisions with almost exclusively domestic talent (there are a very small number of foreigners in the D2 ranks). Amazing how CO can do it almost exclusively with domestic talent, but one state to the south says it's impossible.

It's pretty wild that all of y'all forget about the fact that Ok State, Nau, Wisconsin, Colorado, Syracuse, BYU, and other schools of that nature now throw 8+ scholarships a year into distance running which was not the case back in the days of McDonnell. What McDonnell did will never be replicated by any other program or coach in the whole country. What Bucknam has done with SEC Triple Crowns is about as close as you can get these days.

I don't know about that. What CU has done in conference meets with Cross Country is pretty unbelievable winning the Big 12 from 1996-2007, and every conference meet since joining the Pac-12 in 2011.