Official 2017 NCAA XC Preview Discussion Thread

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  • LetsRun.com
    your benevolent dictator
    2 years ago 09/11/2017 11:03am CDT
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    We are previewing the 2017 NCAA xc season this week on LetsRun by counting down our top 10 pre-season rankings.

    Today we start with #10 and #9.

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/2017-ncaa-womens-xc-preview-10-providence-9-arkansas/

    and

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/2017-ncaa-mens-xc-preview-10-oklahoma-state-9-iona/

    Later in the week, we'll be unveiling a great lengthy feature where we take an in-depth look at the Syracuse men's program and break down how Chris Fox and company built a national championship program from scratch in the span of 10 years.
  • LetsRun.com
    your benevolent dictator
    2 years ago 09/12/2017 12:36pm CDT
    re: LetsRun.com
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    Day #2 .

    The Penn State women haven't been in the top 10 since 1994 but they may do it this year, if their stars run. If you know what's up with Chikotas or Barrett for Penn State, please post it here or email us .

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/2017-ncaa-womens-xc-preview-8-penn-state-7-san-francisco-2/

    As for the men, some may think we over ranked Oregon since they are losing Cheserek but it's hard to discount the Ducks. As for Wisconsin, it all depends if they decide to redshirt McDonald so he can take a crack at the NCAA title on home turf in 2018. We imagine he'll end up redshirting so they may not end up at #7.

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/2017-ncaa-mens-xc-preview-8-oregon-7-wisconsin/
  • Not Nomar
    2 years ago 09/12/2017 3:40pm CDT
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    I'm only doing this because the Bros worked so hard to put this info out and I feel bad for them.
    Go Thomas Radcliffe.
  • Real Person
    2 years ago 09/12/2017 3:48pm CDT
    re: Not Nomar
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    Would McDonald redshirt just to go for the win on home turf? Seems like that would stunt his growth.
  • ck3237
    registered
    2 years ago 09/12/2017 4:31pm CDT
    re: LetsRun.com
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    Go Badgers!!!!
  • Nothing but net
    2 years ago 09/12/2017 9:12pm CDT
    re: Real Person
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    Real Person wrote:

    Would McDonald redshirt just to go for the win on home turf? Seems like that would stunt his growth.

    He would have to contend with Fisher next year as well. A win for McDonald is no sure thing.
  • running nutt
    2 years ago 09/12/2017 9:33pm CDT
    re: Nothing but net
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    what about point park? the boofalos are in great position this year to win it all!
  • Bizarro World
    2 years ago 09/13/2017 11:06am CDT
    re: LetsRun.com
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    Providence's top woman might be an America, Catarina Rocha.
  • rojo
    cofounder
    2 years ago 09/13/2017 4:56pm CDT
    re: Bizarro World
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    Today's teams are up as well

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/2017-ncaa-mens-xc-preview-6-colorado-5-stanford/

    and

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/2017-ncaa-womens-xc-preview-6-nc-state-5-michigan/

    Hard to believe Stanford last won in 2003.
  • Silver Coins
    2 years ago 09/13/2017 6:36pm CDT
    re: rojo
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    Not hard to believe.
    If you understood what took place with change at the top of Stanford's school administration and the changed expectation on incoming student athlete test scores in the early 2000's then you would also understand why Vin left for Oregon.
  • juddy96
    2 years ago 09/13/2017 7:40pm CDT
    re: rojo
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    Dressel has redshirted according to TFRRS https://xc.tfrrs.org/teams/xc/CO_college_m_Colorado.html
  • lots of US talent in providenc
    2 years ago 09/13/2017 7:48pm CDT
    re: Bizarro World
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    Providence's top woman might be an America, Catarina Rocha.

    She could be, but three other women could be their #1 come November - another American, an Australian and a Canadian. Since we all know Canada is the 51st state of the U.S., there's a 75% chance that Providence will have an American as their #1.

    In the big picture, it's irrelevent who their number one is as they have so much depth.

    Don't sleep on this team. The Friar's will podium at the big dance.
  • juddy96
    2 years ago 09/13/2017 7:58pm CDT
    re: rojo
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    Isabel Zimmermann is a redshirt for NC State according to TFRRS

    https://xc.tfrrs.org/teams/xc/NC_college_f_North_Carolina_St.html
  • juddy96
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    2 years ago 09/15/2017 12:37am CDT
    re: juddy96
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    Also it seems Colorado is only returning 2 runners from NCAA's last year on the women's side due to redshirts! https://www.tfrrs.org/teams/xc/CO_college_f_Colorado.html
  • just the facts jack
    2 years ago 09/15/2017 3:19am CDT
    re: juddy96
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    juddy96 wrote:

    Also it seems Colorado is only returning 2 runners from NCAA's last year on the women's side due to redshirts! https://www.tfrrs.org/teams/xc/CO_college_f_Colorado.html

    Believe that TFRRS page is only showing they ran un-attached at their last/ 1st race (at the CSU Duals) of the season, and NOT that they are all definitely redshirting the whole upcoming season. Colorado (and assume most other teams) ALWAYS runs runners un-attached the 1st race or two if they have a red-shirt year to use just in case they decide (or have to due to injury) to red-shirt them later, while in most cases they end up NOT red-shirting.

    (I'd guess, due to their depth:
    1) One or two of Colorado's top returning women with the redshirting option MAY (???) end up using that option, but not all 4 of them (D. Jones, Morley, Hurta and Benner) like that "roster" shows.
    2) The true freshmen of course (Bent, B. Jones, Intile and Brooks), esp. with the depth, could be likely candidates for being red-shirted.
    3) Finally, that roster shows Erin Clark as a red-shirt, but she's already used all her cross country eligibility, and assume she was using the CSU race as a fun training run with friends/ teammates for the upcoming track season, where she does have a year of eligibility left.)
  • rojo
    cofounder
    2 years ago 09/15/2017 12:36pm CDT
    re: just the facts jack
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    Our NCAA xc countdown is now complete on the front page. More importantly, we also have a 6,000+ word feature on how Syracuse went from being a nothing to national champion in 10 years under Chris Fox and company.

    http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/09/rise-syracuse-cross-country-powerhouse-built-scratch-10-years/
  • Naturalrunner
    2 years ago 09/15/2017 1:03pm CDT
    re: rojo
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    NAU will win NCAA if Andy Trourd run the way he had run on the outdoor season. The kid is a big talent and he got speed and endurance, he can easily get top 20, and if he gets top 20, NAU will have three guys on the top 20, which will make them hard to beat. Corey should be top 40, Beamish and Peter right behind him on the top 50. I think NAU have a big chance to repeat as a national champion. Go JACKS!
  • @#$%
    2 years ago 09/16/2017 9:36pm CDT
    re: Naturalrunner
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    BYU had 5-guys (not on the pre-view list) beat the slowest guy on the pre-view list (he ran well) and two just behind the slowest guy on the pre-view list. They are very deep!
    4-miles on a golf course times at about 4500' Alt (all BYU guys):

    1 Rory Linkletter Jr 19:25.8
    3 Connor McMillan Jr 19:26.9
    4 Clayton Young Jr 19:28.2
    5 Casey Clinger Fr 19:29.4
    6 Kramer Morton Fr 19:30.2
    7 Brayden McLelland So 19:31.0
    8 Clayson Shumway Fr 19:33.6
    9 Jonathan Harper Sr 19:35.6
    10 Daniel Carney Jr 19:35.7
    11 Spencer Hanson Sr 19:38.5
    13 Matthew Owens Fr 19:52.2
    16 Garrett Marsing Fr 19:54.4
    17 Connor Ross Jr 19:55.5
    18 Jacob Heslington So 19:58.6
    24 Conner Mantz Fr 20:09.0
    30 Patrick Parker Fr 20:14.2
    31 Connor Weaver Fr 20:16.8
    32 Brady Earley Fr 20:19.1
    39 Marcus Dixon Jr 20:29.2
    40 Abraham Alvarado Sr 20:33.9
    42 Cade Perry So 20:37.4
    48 Alex Hedquist So 20:47.2
    50 Trevor Fuhriman Jr 20:51.7
    53 Andrew Brewer Fr 20:56.3
  • @#$%
    2 years ago 09/16/2017 9:43pm CDT
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    The BYU results were from a race today in Provo UT.
  • wowsa
    2 years ago 09/17/2017 2:23pm CDT
    re: @#$%
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    Arkansas ladies made a statement this weekend.

    7 women running 5:2X miles for a 6K this early in the season?

    Was that a lightning fast course or are they that good?