He jogged it in for a DFL in the 10K. Running tactically is one thing, intentionally losing a race is another. The precedent is he should be disqualified from the competition and should not start the 5K.
He jogged it in for a DFL in the 10K. Running tactically is one thing, intentionally losing a race is another. The precedent is he should be disqualified from the competition and should not start the 5K.
wwbb00 wrote:
it's a race wrote:He jogged it in for a DFL in the 10K. Running tactically is one thing, intentionally losing a race is another. The precedent is he should be disqualified from the competition and should not start the 5K.
No. He can say it was a bad day and he finished.
You do realize that almost everyone in that race is a drug cheat anyway so it doesn't matter anyway.
He moved out to not impede the others.
Much much worse is Seb Coe nodding in agreement with the terror mayor of London and their people applauding that BS too.
i think his/her point is that he was a p u s s y, so he shouldn't be rewarded for that. You're in the 10k, race with some balls. Otherwise, don't be in the 10k
That was the guy in Yellow, almost got lapped twice on one lap. If it's really that bad step the hell off, or at least go to lane 7.
If he wanted to save himself for the 5k all he had to do was drop out. Tiernan completed the race. Can't disqualify for not giving an honest effort if the competitor finished -- there's no precedent for that.
+1...terrible, just terrible
So, so true. But I doubt that he will get through the 5,000m heats.
He must have thought he was racing for points in college not in the adult race, that was a disgrace!
Mo Ahmed did the same thing last year in Rio - then placed 4th in the 5000. Get over it you whiny losers. PT qualified for the race and can do with it as he pleases, it isn't College where "honest effort" sentiments exist - that is for children - presumably none of you have grown beyond that stage.
he shouldn't be dq'ed. If anything his sponsors should be looking at this. And Athletics Australia as well. Maybe Athletics Australia can come up with a policy that Tiernan can only enter one event at championships.
So he started his cool down early. He was out of the race when it started. It was kind of lame but if he thinks it will help him for the 5k why not?
He's representing his country, totally disgraceful, dishonorable and disrespectful display!
Shame on him.
Message to PT. If you're not going to even try, let someone else run who's willing to try! You disgraced yourself and your country!
silly git wrote:
Mo Ahmed did the same thing last year in Rio - then placed 4th in the 5000. Get over it you whiny losers. PT qualified for the race and can do with it as he pleases, it isn't College where "honest effort" sentiments exist - that is for children - presumably none of you have grown beyond that stage.
Yes, the "honest effort" rule still exists here. It's not my idea. But rules are rules and Tiernan isn't above the law.
Here's the rule:
Failure to participate
4. At all competitions under Rules 1.1(a), (b), (c) and (f), except as
provided below, an athlete shall be excluded from participation in
all further events in the competition, including relays, in cases
where:
(a) a final confirmation was given that the athlete would start in an
event but then failed to participate;
(b) he qualified in preliminaries or heats for further participation in
an event but then failed to participate further.
The provision of a medical certificate, endorsed by a medical officer
appointed or approved by the IAAF and/or the Organising
Committee, may be accepted as sufficient reason to accept that the
athlete became unable to compete after confirmations closed or after
competing in a previous round but will be able to compete in further
events on a subsequent day of the competition. Other justifiable
reasons (e.g. factors independent of the athlete’s own actions, such
as problems with the official transport system) may, after
confirmation, also be accepted by the Technical Delegate(s).
Note (i): A fixed time for the final confirmation of participation
shall be published in advance.
Note (ii): Failure to participate includes failure to compete honestly
with bona fide effort. The relevant Referee will decide on this and
the corresponding reference must be made in the official results.
The situation foreseen in this Note will not apply to combined events
individual events.
from:
http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/imported/42192.pdf
Corrected link https://www.iaaf.org/download/download?filename=89ed4cba-6b5e-49fe-a43e-9f5487b77a84.pdf&urlslug=IAAF%20Competition%20Rules%202016-2017%2C%20in%20force%20from%201%20November%202015%20(Chapter%203%20%E2%80%93%20Anti-Doping%20Rules%20of%20this%20edition%20of%20the%20rule%20book%20are%20no%20longer%20in%20force)
First of all, I am a biased Nova/Marcus/Tiernan fan.
I am not quite sure what the big deal was/is here. Oh, the shame of it all? Really?
14th place was nine seconds faster than his PR.
If this was a 27:25-40 special I think he would have been around.
He was at 13:39 at 5K 27:18 pace, a time that would have been a 12 second PR.
He was already 6 seconds behind. Then the more aggressive running started, he had no answer for that
So? He finished 22nd instead of what 16th? Not sure this is all the big deal it is made out to be.
I highly doubt , because of the way the race went, there was any path to getting him into the top 10, it would have taken a sub 13:30 5K when his PR is 13:13.
What a stinker wrote:
He's representing his country, totally disgraceful, dishonorable and disrespectful display!
Shame on him.
Message to PT. If you're not going to even try, let someone else run who's willing to try! You disgraced yourself and your country!
Please. The posters on here criticizing Tiernan are the ones disgracing the human race.
I'm dead serious. You are embarrassing yourselves and it's post like these that give this messageboard a bad reputation.
Tiernan is a stud and one of the best non-African born runners in the world.
When I was watching the 10k, I thought to myself, "This is amazing, they are running fast and the ENTIRE field is sticking with it."
Tiernan was within 10 seconds of the lead as late as 7k. He was doing everything he could to hang on. When you blow up, you blow up. It sounds like people would rather he start the race at 28:00 pace and solo that?? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
No. He stuck with the lead pack, running for a medal, for as long as he could and then had to jog it in for 2-3k. I'd much prefer that than running 28:00 from the gun.
Trialswatcher wrote:
First of all, I am a biased Nova/Marcus/Tiernan fan.
I am not quite sure what the big deal was/is here. Oh, the shame of it all? Really?
14th place was nine seconds faster than his PR.
If this was a 27:25-40 special I think he would have been around.
He was at 13:39 at 5K 27:18 pace, a time that would have been a 12 second PR.
He was already 6 seconds behind. Then the more aggressive running started, he had no answer for that
So? He finished 22nd instead of what 16th? Not sure this is all the big deal it is made out to be.
I highly doubt , because of the way the race went, there was any path to getting him into the top 10, it would have taken a sub 13:30 5K when his PR is 13:13.
You are missing the point. I am a big fan of Tiernan, but the rules say he should be DQed for not giving an honest effort and he's not above the rules.
it's a rule wrote:
You are missing the point. I am a big fan of Tiernan, but the rules say he should be DQed for not giving an honest effort and he's not above the rules.
There isn't a prayer he's DQ'd for any bona fide effort violation. Running 7k with the best in the world at 10k isn't what the rule was designed to avoid. If he jogged it in from the start you'd have a point.
You don't in this case.
No one is "disgracing the human race" in this thread. Not yet, anyway. Take it easy. It is a dispute about whether Tiernan should have jogged it in after going deep into the race on a pace far ahead of his pr.
For once, rojo is a voice of reason. Criticizing Tiernan for this is silly. He gave it a shot and blew up. He was even decent enough to move aside when being lapped.