The 2017 Paris DL Meet Is Going To Be Sensational - Official Discussion Thread

I'm not privy to where Coburn is as far as her training is but it seems that this meet is a good opportunity to go for it time wise. Try to hang with the leaders and keep hanging on as long as possible, pull a Chelemo of sorts. Get out of her comfort zone and go for it and hang with the leaders for as long as possible. If she dies big time she can go back to here 'strategy" at worlds. If this is the GOAT wSC do it. I remember reading (here and elsewhere) that Lagat regrets not being in the race where El g got the mile WR. Emma shouldn't make this race a "I wish I had pushed myself more" type of thing.

True needs to s**t or get off the pot. He should do "O.K." for the next couple of years on the roads but this is his chance to sniff 7:30. He won't win but he should try to hang and get pulled to a fast time, he may not get any more opportunities like this.

What time do use think kwemoi will run in the 3k?

I am super excited for this. The distance events at Paris never dissapoint. I'm saying Kwemoi runs 7:26 and Chespol runs 8:51

Not to be a cynic .. but you guys claim every DL meet is going to be sensational.

Meh........ wrote:

I am super excited for this. The distance events at Paris never dissapoint. I'm saying Kwemoi runs 7:26 and Chespol runs 8:51

7:31 and 8:58.

observer_of_things wrote:

Not to be a cynic .. but you guys claim every DL meet is going to be sensational.

and every field is stacked and loaded

G wrote:

What time do use think kwemoi will run in the 3k?

weather is good at 68F but coud be too windy at 10mph ( 4.5m/s ) but in a hopefully enclosed stadium may not be more than 1m/s

IMO a wind of 2m/s can wreck each lap by ~ 1/2s adding on nearly 4s to a 3k !!!

more importantly, is that we need good pacers

remember Komen had someone pace him thru in 4'53+ !!!

Canova pointed out rightly that apart from maybe monaco where they occasionally pay for good pacers the rest of the meets pay peanuts for pacers & pacing as a result is rubbish

Ronnie has incredible 3k potential

he definitely on evidence of that 7'28 in brutal heat with blistering 12-low finish / eugene 3'49.0 with 12.2+ finish & now 3'30.8 ( little no pacing 700 - 1100 ) in nairobi in 1500wr shape & i'd go as quick as 3'25.50

his current 400 shape i reckon has to be in 47.0 - 47.5 range given his whiplash kick

3'25.50 / 47.00 ->

7'21.68

3'25.50 / 47.25 ->

7'20.69

3'25.50 / 47.50 ->

7'19.71

i'm drawn to middle one which is just on the current WR

( Komen no way was in 3'25/3'26 shape when running 7'20, more likely 3'29/3'30 but his 400 was much slower as well at maybe 49/50 giving less speed decay than Ronnie )

however, this obviously depends on 2 other factors apart from weather

1) he is running 3k off primary 1500 training so his endurance can't be expected to "last" perfectly to 3k as it's over-distance for his specific training, so maybe coupla seconds to add on

2 ) poor pacing

Komen got fast pacing ( too quick 1st lap & 1k though ) but Ronnie will be very very lucky to get better than 5'00 at 2k & with drift off to bell probably no better than a ~ 6'31.5

i coud see him whip in a 54s last lap off this ->7'25.5

conclusion :

if perfect race with ideal pacing to 2k & holding on last 1k, he coud go 7'20 / 7'21 / 7'22 depending on how well his endurance extends to 3k off 1500 training

more likely, it will be rubbish 5'00 pacing to 2k & slowing more to bell & then a big kick to get a 7'25/7'26

for sake of interest in the sport, i hope they paid for some good pacers !!!

Bett in 800 ran a sensational near solo 1'44-flat in trials only overtaken by the great Korir at the end

https://youtu.be/KD2xkKn7FMA?t=1317

( anyone who believes nairobi altitude doesn't hurt Kenyans shoud just watch how wrecked Korir is after the race )

in a paced fast race, a 1'43+ is a given

i'd suggest if he gets 50-low to bell pacing & follows it, he shoud be on for a 1'42-mid/high

calculo wrote:

Bett in 800 ran a sensational near solo 1'44-flat in trials only overtaken by the great Korir at the end

https://youtu.be/KD2xkKn7FMA?t=1317

( anyone who believes nairobi altitude doesn't hurt Kenyans shoud just watch how wrecked Korir is after the race )

in a paced fast race, a 1'43+ is a given

i'd suggest if he gets 50-low to bell pacing & follows it, he shoud be on for a 1'42-mid/high

Shows you how much better than these guys Rudisha at his very best was....... 1:42.12 in Nairobi Trials June 2012. And you're calling Bett sensational at 2 seconds slower.

Oregonering wrote:Shows you how much better than these guys Rudisha at his very best was....... 1:42.12 in Nairobi Trials June 2012. And you're calling Bett sensational at 2 seconds slower.

for a guy who's a kid & ran an undrafted 1'44.0 at altitude, it is

apply simple ratio to Big-Man of '12 -> 1.44.04 * ( 1'40.91 / 1'42.12 ) ->

1'42.80

only 1 man apart from Big-Man/Kipketer has ever run < 1'43 undrafted :

i'd therefore call this kid's run pretty sensational...

Calculo, you are close with Bett but off with Ronald. He is not a front runner and will probably win in 7:31 unless Kejelcha tries to take it hard to try and shake him off of which he will run 7:26.

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Pacing targets for the distance events. Women's 1500 set up to be quick. Last year Muir ran 3:55 in Paris off a 2:10 first 800. 63 sec per lap is 3:56.25.

I'm not sure I trust the women's steeple pace ... most of them this year the pacer has supposedly been scheduled for 3:05 then they really go out in sub-3. If Jebet really wants the WR I think she needs a faster opening K.

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Meet has moved from Stade De France (80,000 seats) to Charléty Stadium (20,000 seats)

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I am in Central America right now & am thinking EDT is 2 hours ahead of me, so has the meet started? W 400 Meters?

NBC Sports Gold is a total joke. The ad free version isn't working and the 400 happened 10 minutes ago and they haven't shown it yet. WTF is going on?

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boskio wrote:

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Wow. The meet has started and the 400m has been run but NBCSN hasn't shown it. It has now on it's 2nd commmercial break.

Really bizarre. The Gold pay package is supposed to give you the international ad free version of the meet but it's not working.