Western States, Over 24 Hours? Here's a silver buckle anyways??

If you were the race director, would you throw away 2017 silver buckles and pay to have more 2017 bronze buckles made and sent out months later? In other words YOU take a loss on your income? Or just give the medals out and know that the recorded times are what really matter?

If you were the race director, you were the one who created the standard of achievement and you wouldn't allow the achievement to be watered down.

It needs to be asked wrote:

If you were the race director, you were the one who created the standard of achievement and you wouldn't allow the achievement to be watered down.

^ A precious snowflake responds; so much butthurt.

Silver for up to 24:00

Bronze for 24:01 - 30:00

nothing for 30:01 +

the silver and bronze don't look much different from each other.

Silver says 100 miles on the left an 1 day on the right. Bronze says 100 on the left and miles on the right....

UR a snowflake wrote:

It needs to be asked wrote:

If you were the race director, you were the one who created the standard of achievement and you wouldn't allow the achievement to be watered down.

^ A precious snowflake responds; so much butthurt.

A snowflake would want to be an exception. ..just saying.

Ever Heard of wrote:

If you were the race director, would you throw away 2017 silver buckles and pay to have more 2017 bronze buckles made and sent out months later? In other words YOU take a loss on your income? Or just give the medals out and know that the recorded times are what really matter?

Might be illegal to do so if it degrades the value of the silver buckles earned in a bona fide manner by those at 24 hours or under. Those with legit SBs could sue. That would be a higher cost than just eating the loss.

It needs to be asked wrote:

UR a snowflake wrote:

^ A precious snowflake responds; so much butthurt.

A snowflake would want to be an exception. ..just saying.

And and exception is what the OP demands. ... He gets to make the decision, not the race director.

i agree with you. who cares if it saves you some money, it cheapens the experience for those that actually hit the stated times. if you wanted to break 24 hours, you could run 50 miles at 12-minutes per mile and then run-hike 50 miles at almost 17-minutes per mile. Or, walk a mile in 24 minutes, run a mile in 10 minutes. repeatI hike in the sierras with a pack at avg 17-18 minutes per mile (6-10k ' avg elevation) and it isn't intense for an ultra runner.(i know the course and how hot it was and i've seen the splits of people who got into the top 10, so this isn't some uneducated comment)winning time is usually around 17 hours (10:12 per mile) here it comes....

It needs to be asked wrote:

At Western States, were they giving out 1 day buckles to finishers that were over 24 hours? I've noticed several Western States finishers on my Instagram feed who were in the 25 and 26 hour finishers who were proudly showing of there buckles, except instead of bronze buckles, they had the silver buckles.

I don't really know the Western States traditions, but I figured 24 hours meant 24 hours. 24:00:01 meant tough shi*, here's a bronze. Is that the tradition, or do they give out silver buckles until they run out, whether it's over 24 hours or not??

Just asking from the comfort of my couch. But if I were doing it, I would want the correct buckle for the achievement.

100 miles of disappointment wrote:

i agree with you. who cares if it saves you some money, it cheapens the experience for those that actually hit the stated times.

you must really hate finisher's medals with all of your tiny, black heart.

"It cheapens the experience for those that actually hit the stated times."

Yes. Like when they made it easier to get into Boston. It used to mean something to qualify, now, means nothing...

ashley madison wrote:

"It cheapens the experience for those that actually hit the stated times."

Yes. Like when they made it easier to get into Boston. It used to mean something to qualify, now, means nothing...

The same is true when the USA in prior years whined about Olympic men's marathon qualifying times being too hard. The USA is not happy until three of their boys get in, no matter how slow they ran.

Karen Bonnett-Natraj finished with 10 seconds to spare. I cannot imagine being out on a course for 29 hours and say 40 minutes and pushing it in the last 19 minutes to get under 30 hours.

https://www.facebook.com/druse76/videos/10155057787923855/

I saw that more than 50 of the 248 finishers finish within an hour of the cutoff time. That is cutting it close.

At Western States, were they giving out 1 day buckles to finishers that were over 24 hours? I've noticed several Western States finishers on my Instagram feed who were in the 25 and 26 hour finishers who were proudly showing of there buckles, except instead of bronze buckles, they had the silver buckles.

Clock time vs chip time?

squatters rights wrote:

At Western States, were they giving out 1 day buckles to finishers that were over 24 hours? I've noticed several Western States finishers on my Instagram feed who were in the 25 and 26 hour finishers who were proudly showing of there buckles, except instead of bronze buckles, they had the silver buckles.

Clock time vs chip time?

As far as I can see, all there is is an elapsed time on the result, no chip time vs gun time.

What is keeping you from joining and dominating.

I'm pretty sure she got a bigger cheer than the overall winner.

must not see wrote:

Karen Bonnett-Natraj finished with 10 seconds to spare. I cannot imagine being out on a course for 29 hours and say 40 minutes and pushing it in the last 19 minutes to get under 30 hours.

https://www.facebook.com/druse76/videos/10155057787923855/

I saw that more than 50 of the 248 finishers finish within an hour of the cutoff time. That is cutting it close.

i do actually. i always look for a little kid and give it to them.

what am I going to do with a finishers medal?

genetics. durability.injury prone when running more than 40-50 mowlack of interest.golden tickets.my age.my wife and child.running pretty solid times on the roads at HM and under.those are the main reasons.I wouldn't dominate and never said I would, but I could certainly go under 24 hours on my first try. I'm very confident in that.

It needs to be asked wrote:

100 miles of disappointment wrote:

i agree with you. who cares if it saves you some money, it cheapens the experience for those that actually hit the stated times.

if you wanted to break 24 hours, you could run 50 miles at 12-minutes per mile and then run-hike 50 miles at almost 17-minutes per mile. Or, walk a mile in 24 minutes, run a mile in 10 minutes. repeat

I hike in the sierras with a pack at avg 17-18 minutes per mile (6-10k ' avg elevation) and it isn't intense for an ultra runner.

(i know the course and how hot it was and i've seen the splits of people who got into the top 10, so this isn't some uneducated comment)

winning time is usually around 17 hours (10:12 per mile)

here it comes....

What is keeping you from joining and dominating.