American Fork NR 4x1600 in 16:41

Wouldn't "The Brother of Casey" be more appropriate? "Clinger the Younger" would refer to one of Casey's children. Come on, didn't you pay attention in seminary?

Lance Espoir wrote:

Looked like 3 college kids and one of their younger brothers running against HS kids. Not just the speed but physical presence.

Clinger the younger ran an excellent race under what likely felt like a lot of pressure to him.

sbeefyk1 wrote:

Brother Hud wrote:

Maybe they are Mormon

Even if they aren't Mormon, they'll run their freshman year, take two years off to chill and train full time while not racing. They'll redshirt what would be their 4th year to go along with the idea that they need a year to get their running legs back and come back as a 5th year Sophomore without missing a beat.

I know that Clinger is Mormon. I read something on milesplit about his college decision. He said that Oregon was willing to be flexible in him taking two years off for a mission so that didn't play a factor in choosing his college. As for Johns and Parker, I have no clue.

When it counted wrote:

When the results mattered most: The SS div 1 finals.

1 Cortes, Isaac 12 Great Oak 4:04.01; - 3.61s

2 Dodds, Spencer 12 Great Oak 4:05.47; +3.95s

8 Fountain, Solomon 11 Great Oak 4:10.28; -0.23s

9 Spencer, Cole 12 Great Oak 4:11.69; +2.95s

Dodds and Spencer BOTH were nearly 4 and 3 and seconds respectively slower one week later.

Not sure what you are trying to get at and I truly do not have a dog in this fight. But I think you simply wrote down the wrong +/- for Dodds' time delta and didn't give it a quick glance over. 4:05 and change is most certainly not almost 4 seconds slower than the 4:09 he ran the week before.

So your point can still be made about Cole Spencer dropping 3 seconds from Prelims to Finals, but the team had 2 other boys improve more than that and another run the same.

sbeefyk1 wrote:

Brother Hud wrote:

Maybe they are Mormon

Even if they aren't Mormon, they'll run their freshman year, take two years off to chill and train full time while not racing. They'll redshirt what would be their 4th year to go along with the idea that they need a year to get their running legs back and come back as a 5th year Sophomore without missing a beat.

Please look at this picture of Ryan Waite when he was towards the end of his mission (second on the left)

Now try and tell me it looks like he was training full time for two years. Look at that gut! Somebody find some Miles Batty pics from when he got home. He was also a blob.

He posted the pic on twitter for us

https://twitter.com/CoachWaiteUD/status/851609430458281991

PrZ wrote:

You have no idea what you're talking about lmao. "Only one who has broken 4:00 in the 1600 METER run -- Grant Fisher (in his sub-4 HS mile race in 2015)"...dude literally every sub 4 miler EVER has also broken 4 in the 1600 en route. Your statement makes absolutely zero sense.

No effin' KIDDING, Puddin' Head -- a sub-4:00 mile meant a sub-4:00 1600m was also run!

But it is inferred by studying MileSplit.com's all-time 1600m lists (indoors and outdoors) that in ONLY ONE of those high school sub-4:00 mile races -- when Grant Fisher ran a 3:57.93 1600m en route to his 3:59.38 mile (June 4, 2015), was an official 1600m time recorded.

Based on those lists, no other high school kid has ever been officially credited with a sub-4:00 1600m, indoors or outdoors.

Comprende, Einstein?

Newbury Park still got another year to break it