Harvard woes

They were asked to lose 20 pounds. And we are not talking about "little chubby chicks."

That assertion is useless without pics. Show me the blubber!

Ah D1 Coach, You make comments that are interesting. That he "still will be coaching women" are interesting. I will gloss over that. But calling me a liar? Wow, on something that you obviously failed to check out and is VERY easily verified makes you look a bit amateur. But alas, I have seen others claim the same thing. Let me help you. THIS COACH COACHES THE WOMEN'S DISTANCE TEAM and THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S MID-DISTANCE TEAM. I told you! Gotta do your research. Ok, Here. Let me help. Take your pick.

http://gocrimson.com/sports/track/coaches/index

http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/xc/coaches/Wales-Dinan_Patrick?view=bio

Thank you Confuzed! I was aghast at being called a liar by a "D1 Coach". From what I know, he coaches the pure mid-distance boys. The new volunteer coach I have read up on and his resume is impressive! #replacement?

The guy may be a jerk but there is no mention by the girls former or current of sexual misconduct. I can only imagine the drama at Harvard. Resume, application or graduate/professional school booster x 1000 when compared to most schools. I'm sure if there were a lot of "groupies" just like at most DI schools. The walk on attitudes of the past are gone. These type of athletes take up valuable time and energy. In the end they hurt the morale of other more serious athletes.

Join the running club! It's sad to see the poor quality of athletes currently running at some D1 programs. Harvard cleaned up as did Princeton and Columbia. Get over it.

XCFan22 wrote:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/3/23/distance-runners-team-divided/

Rough year for Harvard continues....

Only 11 women on the XC roster ?!?!?

I read one of the articles. The whole thing could be much to do about nothing.

Some look for the worst in situations. This is not the first story like this about girls/women and it will not be the last.

One girl said she would be off the team if she didn't run in the Ivy Indoor? Was that said, or was it her impression? It's hard to believe that any coach could be as bad as the girls claim he is.

Hopefully we find out soon for everyone involved!

Bill McCurdy was a fun guy.

Seems like the "smartest" people often can't see the obvious.

How simple can this be? They brought in an intense hard ass coach to replace the more easygoing coach (relatively speaking). Of course a percentage of the girls don't like it because it's not what they signed up for. It's not what they want. I don't blame them for that. You don't spend a fortune on a Harvard education to devote your life to running.

Being Harvard it's not surprising that there are gals that are going to respond in an overly dramatic and entitled way. This is not good, but the real fault lies with the AD and the school admin. What kind of program do you want? Pick the objective and stick to it. Are you gunning for excellence and championships at all costs? Or are you a program that tries to strike more of a balance with athletics being a part of the whole experience and not the most important part.

+1 million! Now lets move on...

great post

Oh yes he is wrote:

Ah D1 Coach, You make comments that are interesting. That he "still will be coaching women" are interesting. I will gloss over that. But calling me a liar? Wow, on something that you obviously failed to check out and is VERY easily verified makes you look a bit amateur. But alas, I have seen others claim the same thing. Let me help you. THIS COACH COACHES THE WOMEN'S DISTANCE TEAM and THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S MID-DISTANCE TEAM. I told you! Gotta do your research. Ok, Here. Let me help. Take your pick.

http://gocrimson.com/sports/track/coaches/indexhttp://www.gocrimson.com/sports/xc/coaches/Wales-Dinan_Patrick?view=bio

When was the last time you saw a track team's web site fully updated/informed? Appears this SID is no different.

Who is it?

I go to dozens of high school meets around the country every year and while I agree coaches have to be very careful with this, I still see athletes and coaches hug pretty frequently in celebration after big performances. Just normal human stuff.

+100000

Agreed, but the AD and school admin are allowed to changed objectives. Based on the coaching change it appears that they want to change from a casual to serious program.

If some of the current members of the team don't like the change to a serious program because it takes away from their coursework, then fine, leave the team and focus on coursework. It seems like a win-win situation. Those who want to focus on running get a more serious program and those who running is a hobby or social activity can quit the team and focus on school or being social rather than running mediocrely.

While some of the runners may not like the change, from an economic perspective it increases social welfare as it forces the students to better allocate their time by revealing their preferences.

The problem here is not being serious, it is a control issue. Crossing the line in many areas. This ain't about being a hard ass, its about being ethical. Good coaches trust their athletes and do what is best for the athlete. Expecting the athletes to sacrifice everything so the coach can gain from it is flat out wrong.

Still have not seen anyone answer the question as to where Smith is? Did running become more important than school? If so, who is giving her advice?

Bahahahahah. So now, NOW that you were shown you the facts.( And others have confirmed it.) You don't admit defeat. Seriously? Now you say "the site isn't updated". I don't know what college you went to, and you clearly are not a "D1 Coach", but sites are updated pretty quickly. Esp D1 sites. You are a moron who just can't admit you are wrong. I tried to be kind. To let you down gently. He is AT PRESENT RIGHT NOW a coach of boys in addition to girls. I am 100% positive! Perhaps, just perhaps, yep, there is a slight chance that I may even know a few people on the Harvard track and cross country teams. You are nothing but a common internet troll who knows nothing but pretends you do, THAT is quite apparent.

Hi, this is Brittany, the article's author. I am the sports administration reporter with The Harvard Crimson. If you have any information (on this or other matters) that you think would be pertinent, please feel free to send me an email at brittany.ellis@thecrimson.com. Thanks!

Hey Brittany!

Spend your time focusing on real issues at Harvard and not perpetrating a witch hunt to satisfy your liberal guilt. Thanks!

Kisses,

Roll Tide