Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

5/29 Data

The improvement continues for another day.

7 day rolling average of daily deaths fell yet again, as it has done for most of May.

Both US and global are at new cyclical lows.

The world number is the lowest since April 2.

US: 986

World: 4132

Only change in the national or US state rankings is that Mexico improved - going from 32nd worst nation per capita to 33rd worst.

Racket wrote:

TPP had major critics, and the Paris environmental accords where an unenforceable joke from the start.

It's a mistake to baseline these against whatever idealized alternative you might imagine rather than the realized alternative.

It's hard to imagine how having the world superpower effectively withdraw from diplomacy is a plus unless it's part of a greater strategy with more depth than a child's tantrum.

Where are you getting your data, agip?

Just curious as -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

suggests the last 2 days are highest so far with Brazil taking the brunt of it.

Data? wrote:

Where are you getting your data, agip?

Just curious as -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

suggests the last 2 days are highest so far with Brazil taking the brunt of it.

I use worldometers yes.

I'm looking at the 7 day rolling average - that's probably what is throwing you off.

agip wrote:

Data? wrote:

Where are you getting your data, agip?

Just curious as -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

suggests the last 2 days are highest so far with Brazil taking the brunt of it.

I use worldometers yes.

I'm looking at the 7 day rolling average - that's probably what is throwing you off.

and you may be looking at cases, not deaths.

I look only at daily deaths unless something unusual pops up.

Ah yes, my bad. I was looking at cases rather than deaths.

Monkeys typing wrote:

Racket wrote:

TPP had major critics, and the Paris environmental accords where an unenforceable joke from the start.

It's a mistake to baseline these against whatever idealized alternative you might imagine rather than the realized alternative.

It's hard to imagine how having the world superpower effectively withdraw from diplomacy is a plus unless it's part of a greater strategy with more depth than a child's tantrum.

Correct.

And as for the Paris accords, Europe has become quite serious about trying to meet its obligations. If we can get the rest of the world to follow we just might get a shot at human survival.

Yesterday I stated that the riots won't have much effect on the election unless they continue through the summer. And at first glance, I didn't think that a continuation was likely.

But after considering it a bit more, I'm not so sure. It's not that I think we will have continuous violence every day in major cities. But we have all the ingredients for major civil unrest similar to what has happened in Hong Kong.

The black community has been dumped on repeatedly for many years. When something bad happens, it hits immigrants, people of color, and indigenous people the hardest. The COVID crisis and the resulting economic crisis is no exception.

Now Tiny is stoking the flames of resentment while congress does almost nothing to help put food on the table. As the underclass becomes more desperate, they will turn to violence. The murder of George Floyd may merely be the spark that lit the flame.

Who does this benefit in the election? agip worries that Tiny benefits. I'm not so sure about that.

I don't think that Tiny can crack down on the violence without breeding more violence. I don't think Tiny is any more capable of mitigating civil unrest than he was at mitigating the epidemic. If events spin out of control it will just further demonstrate why we need Tiny out of there ASAP.

Agip is right.

I think this might help Trump with the small group that can be swayed for or against Trump. Middle older America is very much against looting. They will side with coming down on looters.

Interestingly, I think Biden's stupid remark if you support Trump you are not black, in the long run helps him. It keeps the association and the discussion about real blacks not supporting Trump as an issue.

Monkeys typing wrote:

Racket wrote:

TPP had major critics, and the Paris environmental accords where an unenforceable joke from the start.

It's a mistake to baseline these against whatever idealized alternative you might imagine rather than the realized alternative.

It's hard to imagine how having the world superpower effectively withdraw from diplomacy is a plus unless it's part of a greater strategy with more depth than a child's tantrum.

I didn't say it was necessarily a good idea to withdraw, I'm simply suggesting that withdrawal isn't exactly as earth shattering as people would like to believe.

Fat hurts wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

It's a mistake to baseline these against whatever idealized alternative you might imagine rather than the realized alternative.

It's hard to imagine how having the world superpower effectively withdraw from diplomacy is a plus unless it's part of a greater strategy with more depth than a child's tantrum.

Correct.

And as for the Paris accords, Europe has become quite serious about trying to meet its obligations. If we can get the rest of the world to follow we just might get a shot at human survival.

Are we still gonna have to invade Brazil though?

kibitzer wrote:

Smorbun wrote:

You are taking this further. I didn't say anything about the difficulties of being the next President. I only said that Biden will win and win easily as long as he is breathing. I'd be happy to discuss other topics with you, but this all started because I said Biden will win and win easily, because he will. As long as he is breathing on election day.

Apologies for being unclear. My response to you was above the line that I drew; below the line were some more general remarks, not particularly addressed to or responsive to you.

My bad. In future I'll just make two posts.

Got it.

the president is calling for a race war in DC tonight.

cool, cool

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266724553620930561?s=20

Civil unrest always goes against the party in power. Trump is going to lose anyway, but continued civil unrest just makes it an even worse loss for him.

Racket wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

It's a mistake to baseline these against whatever idealized alternative you might imagine rather than the realized alternative.

It's hard to imagine how having the world superpower effectively withdraw from diplomacy is a plus unless it's part of a greater strategy with more depth than a child's tantrum.

I didn't say it was necessarily a good idea to withdraw, I'm simply suggesting that withdrawal isn't exactly as earth shattering as people would like to believe.

racqueto I do want to express my main point again, instead of being specific on Paris.

The world knows that any new R admin is likely to just tear up any agreement that is made. So why should any country make an agreement with the US?

That's the point. Not that losign Paris is a unique and massive disaster.

But that in the future there is a now a huge wall preventing more meaningful agreements that could benefit everyone.

that problem is the Republican Party.

Racket wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

It's a mistake to baseline these against whatever idealized alternative you might imagine rather than the realized alternative.

It's hard to imagine how having the world superpower effectively withdraw from diplomacy is a plus unless it's part of a greater strategy with more depth than a child's tantrum.

I didn't say it was necessarily a good idea to withdraw, I'm simply suggesting that withdrawal isn't exactly as earth shattering as people would like to believe.

A competent president would wait until the dust had settled before taking any punitive action against China or the WHO. It's all a distraction.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

yeah unless he picks kamala. The GOP is locked and loaded full of her prosecutions of black people, I'm sure. I hear there is some anger at Harris among blacks for being a cop.

But I still think she will be the Veep.

Hmm. Sounds like Stacy Abrams' stock is rising. I still think she's a risky pick, but you gotta admit, she has been on every show imaginable and has performed very well.

Dementia Joe will lose- the old man LITERALLY can't put a complete sentence together, stay on topic, or remember what year it is. He is not and never has been a worthy leader.

KAG2020

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Correct.

And as for the Paris accords, Europe has become quite serious about trying to meet its obligations. If we can get the rest of the world to follow we just might get a shot at human survival.

Are we still gonna have to invade Brazil though?

Eventually it could come to that. Wars have been started for less.