I'm pretty sure the answer is no. We had this thread on this a while ago
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4973017
but wanted to make sure.
Also, does anyone know why we started running the 1600 in the US?
Way back were tracks in the US and England all imperial and then when we switched to metric we decided it was easier to run 4 laps, than figure out where the mile started, or to run a 1500?
Not that many big races run the 1600 only state championships except Oregon and others who run the 1500.Only state championships usually run the 1600 where at races you will see a 4:15 or a winner at Meets of Champions but at NBIN AND NON they run the mile which see winners like 3:59 with that extra 9 meters.If Nike Outdoor Nationals or New Balance Outdoor Nationals had a race with Casey Clinger,Reed Brown,DJ Principie and basically all of American Fork and La Salle with no pacers you will easily see a sub 4 1600m.Nike should fund this because this might be broken after the 2 hour Marathon.
Not an open race so it might not be relevant to the conversation but Webb did it in a Penn Relays split:
1600m Splits
Relays’ Top Performers
3:59.9—Alan Webb, South Lakes: Reston, Va. (2000)
Grant Fisher did it last year
What about the DMR at Penn Relays last Year with the intense tie
Roar Lions wrote:
Not an open race so it might not be relevant to the conversation but Webb did it in a Penn Relays split:
1600m Splits
Relays’ Top Performers
3:59.9—Alan Webb, South Lakes: Reston, Va. (2000)
BRING BACK THE 1600M wrote:
Grant Fisher did it last year
No he didn't
BRING BACK THE 1600M wrote:
What about the DMR at Penn Relays last Year with the intense tie
That was just over 4 flat point for Hunter, so still not as good as Webb's split. Anyways many many pros have broken 4 in the 1600m split of a DMR, but I don't think anyone has done it in an open 1600m.
So I'm not aware of any sub-4s, though German Fernandez did run 4:00.29 in a 1600 as part of his historic state meet double. That might be the 'open 1600m world record' of sorts.
Vandegrift ran 4:03.22, 1987 PIAA State Meet
If Nike Outdoor Nationals or New Balance Outdoor Nationals had a race with Casey Clinger,Reed Brown,DJ Principie and basically all of American Fork and La Salle with no pacers, they still couldn't tell what the eff you were talking about.
BRING BACK THE 1600M wrote:
Not that many big races run the 1600 only state championships except Oregon and others who run the 1500.Only state championships usually run the 1600 where at races you will see a 4:15 or a winner at Meets of Champions but at NBIN AND NON they run the mile which see winners like 3:59 with that extra 9 meters.If Nike Outdoor Nationals or New Balance Outdoor Nationals had a race with Casey Clinger,Reed Brown,DJ Principie and basically all of American Fork and La Salle with no pacers you will easily see a sub 4 1600m.Nike should fund this because this might be broken after the 2 hour Marathon.