Quanera Hayes sets American 300 indoor record with 35.71, Candace Hill beats HS record with 36.84 at Clemson

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  • LetsRun.com
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    3 years ago 01/09/2017 1:33pm CST
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    Over the weekend on Clemson's new banked track, Hayes' 35.71 crushed the 36.25 that Natasha Hastings ran at the NBIGP last year.

    Some won't consider Hill's to be the HS record as she's a pro (but we don't get why a pro invalidates the fact you are still in HS) but the old HS record was Francena McCorory's 36.96 from 2006. Hill did not beak McCorory's US junior mark of 36.67.

    If you wonder why our sport isn't popular, watch the video of the race.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96We3Q5nZtY

    It takes a lot of knowledge for the sport to be truly exciting. An American and US HS record get broken and yet it's no different really than watching the 5th heat of a JV 300 from a specatator viewpoint, except for the time.
  • Fair
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 6:32am CST
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    To be fair he does say it was a "great run". And he had a slick one-liner "steady as she goes" and "walk in the park".
  • sleeeper
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 7:07am CST
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    Sprints have been opening up hot this year, both men and women.
  • KrisKrinkle
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 7:08am CST
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    This has nothing to do with why your sport isn't popular.
  • elmore345
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 9:29am CST
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    Its a 300m record. Barely a recognised distance.
  • sbeefyk1
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    3 years ago 01/10/2017 10:04am CST
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    That is pretty funny. He doesn't seem to care or know how good the time is. But to be fair this was a small podunk race where there was probably 6 spectators outside of teammates. AND this announcer was probably just a volunteer. I'm sure if you gave them a call and volunteered to announce these races they would have no problem. Just remember, they won't pay you.
  • rojo
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    3 years ago 01/10/2017 10:12am CST
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    I'm not faulting the announcer. Anyone in his shoes would be doing the exact same thing unless they had done a lot of research.

    It takes education to realize what's amazing in our sport. In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.
  • feelyabutnowwhat
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 11:55am CST
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    rojo wrote:

    I'm not faulting the announcer. Anyone in his shoes would be doing the exact same thing unless they had done a lot of research.

    It takes education to realize what's amazing in our sport. In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    So what's the solution? Whenever I watch the Olympics there is a simulated WR effort overlaid amongst the swimmers. Could we somehow get a holographic image of the WR effort being run at the same time as the actual race so spectators have an idea how special a performance is? It'd be nice to use something like they do in dog races where you are chasing a fake rabbit. Maybe have a small track (like a train track, not a separate track to run on) on the inside of lane 1 that has a device that can project a holographic image of the person who has the WR or NR or whatever and then that thing moves at WR pace. It'd be cool for slower people to be able to "race" Usain Bolt in this fashion, or whoever their hero is.
  • M B
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 12:02pm CST
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    The announcer is very experienced, he announces for Arcadia and Mt SAC. I'm sure he is embarrassed that he announced a race with an Olympian and HS record-holder without googling the respective records first. Mistake on his part.

    Taking down a McCrory indoor record is not trivial.
  • Jeff Wigand
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    3 years ago 01/10/2017 12:06pm CST
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    rojo wrote:

    I'm not faulting the announcer. Anyone in his shoes would be doing the exact same thing unless they had done a lot of research.

    It takes education to realize what's amazing in our sport. In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    Because a great play in football is entirely subjective. How difficult did the play look?

    Hayes could have run 33.00 and beaten the WR to a pulp but with no other information, all we know is that she won by a little more than second.
  • ukathleticcoach
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 12:09pm CST
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    Ah the indoor 300m what a classic distance it brings back evocative memories ...of never having seen the distance raced indoors and barely outdoors.
  • asdfdgjdfgrg
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 12:15pm CST
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    rojo wrote:
    In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    To a non-American it all looks just stupid, not spectacular. Then again, a non-American wouldn't be watching it in the first place.
  • perspectivizer
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 1:34pm CST
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    feelyabutnowwhat wrote:

    rojo wrote:

    I'm not faulting the announcer. Anyone in his shoes would be doing the exact same thing unless they had done a lot of research.

    It takes education to realize what's amazing in our sport. In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    So what's the solution? Whenever I watch the Olympics there is a simulated WR effort overlaid amongst the swimmers. Could we somehow get a holographic image of the WR effort being run at the same time as the actual race so spectators have an idea how special a performance is? It'd be nice to use something like they do in dog races where you are chasing a fake rabbit. Maybe have a small track (like a train track, not a separate track to run on) on the inside of lane 1 that has a device that can project a holographic image of the person who has the WR or NR or whatever and then that thing moves at WR pace. It'd be cool for slower people to be able to "race" Usain Bolt in this fashion, or whoever their hero is.


    Good idea, except that swimmers race every final flat-out. There is no such thing as "tactical" races like in track.

    It would be a bit embarrassing for the 1500 WR to be 200 meters ahead of the pack at the Rio Olympics.
  • Checks out
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 2:16pm CST
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    Actually, the NFL is continuously adding games in England which sell out every time (~90,000 per game). The Fan Base is To the point they are accessing the viability of adding a team across the pond.
    asdfdgjdfgrg wrote:

    rojo wrote:
    In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    To a non-American it all looks just stupid, not spectacular. Then again, a non-American wouldn't be watching it in the first place.
  • TrackCoach
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    3 years ago 01/10/2017 2:24pm CST
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    rojo wrote:

    I'm not faulting the announcer. Anyone in his shoes would be doing the exact same thing unless they had done a lot of research.

    It takes education to realize what's amazing in our sport. In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    Not being too critical because he did a good job of calling the race. I always do some research before announcing a meet, even down to understanding state and age records. He goofed on this one, but know one is perfect. I once called a somewhat low key race and did not recognize Fam was in the mile.
  • What will they try next?
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 2:58pm CST
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    M B wrote:

    The announcer is very experienced, he announces for Arcadia and Mt SAC. I'm sure he is embarrassed that he announced a race with an Olympian and HS record-holder without googling the respective records first. Mistake on his part.

    Taking down a McCrory indoor record is not trivial.

    McCorory
  • kartelite
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    3 years ago 01/10/2017 4:38pm CST
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    feelyabutnowwhat wrote:

    So what's the solution? Whenever I watch the Olympics there is a simulated WR effort overlaid amongst the swimmers.

    I think you're confusing the Olympics with Mario Kart 64.
  • Fair
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 4:50pm CST
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    Worst guy on these boards.
  • Doclove
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 5:32pm CST
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    Checks out wrote:

    Actually, the NFL is continuously adding games in England which sell out every time (~90,000 per game). The Fan Base is To the point they are accessing the viability of adding a team across the pond.
    asdfdgjdfgrg wrote:

    rojo wrote:
    In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    To a non-American it all looks just stupid, not spectacular. Then again, a non-American wouldn't be watching it in the first place.



    Just shows there are morons in every country. It's a terrible sport with breaks in play every few seconds.
  • Pro Mag
    3 years ago 01/10/2017 6:09pm CST
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    I'm a runner to the bone, but a few minutes of a good game (like last night) blows away anything in competitive running for drama, athleticism, strategy and teamwork.

    Soccer OTOH has "continuous play", as in continuously boring and trivial.

    Doclove wrote:

    Checks out wrote:

    Actually, the NFL is continuously adding games in England which sell out every time (~90,000 per game). The Fan Base is To the point they are accessing the viability of adding a team across the pond.
    asdfdgjdfgrg wrote:

    rojo wrote:
    In the NFL, it doesn't take education to realize a spectacular play. It's just spectacular to anyone watching it.

    To a non-American it all looks just stupid, not spectacular. Then again, a non-American wouldn't be watching it in the first place.



    Just shows there are morons in every country. It's a terrible sport with breaks in play every few seconds.