Patriots always seem like the smarter team no matter who they are playing.
Patriots always seem like the smarter team no matter who they are playing.
Steel wrote:
They are just now, since pre-season, getting everyone healthy.
Their passing connection from Ben to Antonio is unstoppable.
Would you like to now rephrase that?
Steel wrote:
They are just now, since pre-season, getting everyone healthy.
Their passing connection from Ben to Antonio is unstoppable.
Good call. Now back to yore shithole in Shittsburgh.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Steel wrote:They are just now, since pre-season, getting everyone healthy.
Their passing connection from Ben to Antonio is unstoppable.
Would you like to now rephrase that?
What really proved to be unstoppable was Brady connecting with a former Penn State lacrosse player all night long.
As a Chiefs fan, I'd just like to thank Boswell for missing an extra point a week after not missing any of his 6 FG attempts. Crosby of the Packers also missed on Sunday after hitting two clutch 50+ yarders against the Cowboys.
The Patriots GM & his coordination with the coach is the key. Yes I know it is the same guy but refuse to say his name since like the NOP coach he explores the fringe of what's legal and strays over the line from time to time.
NE gets average talent compared to other teams, but very smart and very versatile players. They make coaching adjustments from week to week and within the game that others can't. The Steelers needed to jam the NE WR's at the line to buy time to pressure Brady but their personnel is not good at it, don't practice it, and can't change from the soft zone. The NE lacrosse player may not last into a second season on any other team, but the guy was catching WR quick screens, throwing picks, and splitting the seam from the slot like a TE. When NE doubled Brown all over the field, Pitt had no adjustments or response because they have one-trick-ponies. Out-personneled and out-coached.
Insightful. In Belicheck we trust.
But one point, Pats are so good they don't need to cheat.
GhostofTedKennedy wrote:
But one point, Pats are so good they don't need to cheat.
Without Brady, would they be good? They have Brady so it is a moot point.
Same with pressing the limit of the rules and stepping over the line occasionally, we don't know if they need to cheat or not since they have been caught cheating and living on the edge regularly under their current administration.
Bill Belicheck is very smart, a great coach.
Mike Tomlin is stupid, a lousy coach.
Very simple, it is almost like cheating when someone so smart goes up against someone so stupid.
Steelers Fan wrote:
GhostofTedKennedy wrote:But one point, Pats are so good they don't need to cheat.
Without Brady, would they be good? They have Brady so it is a moot point.
Same with pressing the limit of the rules and stepping over the line occasionally, we don't know if they need to cheat or not since they have been caught cheating and living on the edge regularly under their current administration.
You mean, like this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fAs9bj9uYbottom line. wrote:
Bill Belicheck is very smart, a great coach.
Mike Tomlin is stupid, a lousy coach.
Very simple, it is almost like cheating when someone so smart goes up against someone so stupid.
A)Check
B)Not lousy, not stupid. Slightly above average in the NFL. A players coach who wins by putting superior players in a position with a chance to succeed. Succeeds due to a very stable supportive ownership. Cowher was a little above average as well.
C) The NE guy approaches it by putting average to a little above average players in GREAT matchups and situations. If Hogan was covered one-on-one press by a top CB he doesn't catch a pass, but he ends up on linebackers and flourishes. In the case of yesterday, NE coaching was indeed superior. My premise is that Tomlin couldn't adjust even if he was smart enough to do so because he doesn't have the personnel for that. His fault? Maybe, he definitely plays a part in their approach.
E. Bonix wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:Would you like to now rephrase that?
What really proved to be unstoppable was Brady connecting with a former Penn State lacrosse player all night long.
Indeed..............winning combination.
Steelers Fan wrote:
GhostofTedKennedy wrote:But one point, Pats are so good they don't need to cheat.
Without Brady, would they be good? They have Brady so it is a moot point.
Same with pressing the limit of the rules and stepping over the line occasionally, we don't know if they need to cheat or not since they have been caught cheating and living on the edge regularly under their current administration.
Without Brady they started the season 3-1. Not bad.
They were caught cheating once and that was shortly after the rule had been changed. Doesn't make it right, but all the other teams had done it too.
The Whiskey wrote:
Steelers Fan wrote:Without Brady, would they be good? They have Brady so it is a moot point.
Same with pressing the limit of the rules and stepping over the line occasionally, we don't know if they need to cheat or not since they have been caught cheating and living on the edge regularly under their current administration.
Without Brady they started the season 3-1. Not bad.
They were caught cheating once and that was shortly after the rule had been changed. Doesn't make it right, but all the other teams had done it too.
“Stealing someone’s signals was a part of the game and everybody attempted to do that. We had people that always tried to steal signals,†said Cowher, whose 2004 team won 16 consecutive games before losing to the Patriots in the AFC title game. “What happened when we lost that game is they outplayed us. It had nothing to do with stealing signals or cheating or anything else.â€
NE cheated. Paint it anyway you want but they cheated. They didn't steal signals but illegally taped opponent practices. It is believed that Goodell covered most of it up to save the image of the NFL and repayment for Kraft pushing to make him commissioner. Funny how things come full circle. Did they deflate balls? Why did the QB trash his phone when the league asked for it? Ask opponents how the headsets work at NE? They (legally) stretch the spirit of the rules by trying to confuse opponents with players numbers out of position, pick on nearly every wide pass play... Like it or not they have a history of flirting with the rules. Does this have anything to do with their long-term success? I don't think so. Every team has something less than pure but don't act like NE is exempt from shady coincidences.
Spygate was cheating. Everything else, not so much.
was it really though? Every game is taped from multiple vantage points which is legal on both sides. I guess if you want to say they were taping from an unapproved location that would be more accurate but to say spygate was actual cheating is pretty ignorant.
Rules R Rules wrote:
Spygate was cheating. Everything else, not so much.
Wrong about a few things:1. They didn't tape practices - in fact here is the retraction and apology the Boston Herald posted way back in 2008. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2008/05/apology2. The NFL maintains the wireless frequencies not the NFL home teams. http://operations.nfl.com/the-game/gameday-behind-the-scenes/nfl-gameday-frequency-coordinators/3. Stretching the rules? They play the game within the limits of the NFL rule book. I don't understand how the rule book can be stretched. Either they are playing by the rules of the game or they are not. Maybe a team gets away with something once but the NFL officials don't let it happen after they are notified of an infraction.
Steelers Fan wrote:
NE cheated. Paint it anyway you want but they cheated. They didn't steal signals but illegally taped opponent practices. It is believed that Goodell covered most of it up to save the image of the NFL and repayment for Kraft pushing to make him commissioner. Funny how things come full circle. Did they deflate balls? Why did the QB trash his phone when the league asked for it? Ask opponents how the headsets work at NE? They (legally) stretch the spirit of the rules by trying to confuse opponents with players numbers out of position, pick on nearly every wide pass play... Like it or not they have a history of flirting with the rules. Does this have anything to do with their long-term success? I don't think so. Every team has something less than pure but don't act like NE is exempt from shady coincidences.
I won't bore you with links of the multiple allegations and punished offenses as I assume you have read them at one time or another whether it be ESPN, CBS, or multiple other sources. My search of NE taping practices brought up far more than I wish to read.
I guess they were found guilty by the league on more than one occasion because they are the pillar of integrity. It's just alternative facts after all.
They admitted guilt in the case of Spygate. That's it. The NFL wrongly punished them for Deflategate as anyone with a 3rd grade science education understands.