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This thread is one giant egomaniac circle jerk.
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This thread is one giant egomaniac circle jerk.
reading this site, I think your love is right here. A lot of guys are echoing your problem.
Solution: Date dudes. enjoy your new found fishing hole
It starts with just one cat wrote:
Out of touch? More accurate would be that I understand the pervading culture of kids your age. And it's pathetic.
That's not to say that there are not good family men and women in their 20's and early 30's. Some of them are rock solid. They are in a distinct minority. Your generation is so narcissistic and immature that most are basically passing on the primary function of society - to produce a new generation.
The young males today act like boys into their 30's. And the females.... well, take a look at that post by the perfection-seeking woman. You guys have to dance their tune, and even then it will ultimately end because you're not good enough. Maybe that's why both the boys and the girls avoid marriage today, because you're not adults willing to act like men and women.
Men are men and women are women. Despite what they told you in your women studies class, you can't decide that the biological imperative to reproduce means nothing. Thousands of years of evolution and the hand of God made those realities. Fight against it all you want and all you do is make yourself miserable, alone and childless.
There's no bitterness here. Your lifetime of walking on eggshells is not something I'd find enjoyable, but if you want to be the New Age Male Feminist White Knight, that's your choice. I got married way back in another century. We never thought we were anything special, but we knew we'd stay married and raise children. Neither of us expected anything close to perfection in the other, just fidelity. We have worked on (or ignored) the rest.
To you and the rest of your generation: stop thinking you're so damned special.
I bet you have an ugly wife.
To anyone who feels the same as the OP... It's called being gay. You've tried women and they weren't your thing. Now stop being a homophobe and try men.
30 YO chick says she is happier alone than without a perfect man but wants a dog and a kid. Pity the kid who she uses to replace the other adult and tries to smother and groom to her screwed up vision of perfection. The dog is probably too stupid to be harmed by her, well ,hopefully.
BeatU wrote:
30 YO chick says she is happier alone than without a perfect man but wants a dog and a kid. Pity the kid who she uses to replace the other adult and tries to smother and groom to her screwed up vision of perfection. The dog is probably too stupid to be harmed by her, well ,hopefully.
Not to derail the thread further, but this. I lived with a woman like this once, and I ended up actually urging her to never have children because I knew how horrible of a mother she would be and how terrible it would be for the kids. Nothing was ever good enough, everything had to be 100% her way, her idealistic thoughts were never obtainable or even remotely close to realistic... I imagined her children, if she ever had them, would likely end up committing suicide unless they were bright enough to not listen to her and find solace and comfort in other caring individuals.
I don't mean to demonize women specifically. Anyone who has highly narcissistic tendencies and perfectionist ideals is going to be an awful parent. In my own personal experience and observation, however, more women fall into this category than men.
you should use this guys strategy
Just sayin'' wrote:
reading this site, I think your love is right here. A lot of guys are echoing your problem.
Solution: Date dudes. enjoy your new found fishing hole
Yes! Someone else is making sense. No connection with girls? Try guys.
But, I still say OP is too focused on himself. He's going to win!!
Driven Guy wrote:
girl30 wrote:Makes sense to me. I'm female, 30, and I can relate to all of that. I'm happier single. I have good friends, a good dog, and basically everything else I want. Not having to ever answer to anyone outweighs the benefits of being in a relationship for me. I can have a kid by myself with a donor. I'm not settling for anything less than perfect for me. I worried about it when I was younger, but not anymore. If your perfect girl comes along, great, otherwise don't worry about what other people think.
Not sure this is a legit post, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you really need to drop the "anything less than perfect" attitude if you expect to have any chance at a happy relationship. 1) There is no perfect. 2) The Perfect Man is not going to want to be with you because 3) you are not perfect.
I've known women like you, and they always end up alone, bitter, and miserable. If you really are happy alone, more power to you. In my experience and others', few people are happy alone, and that goes for both men and women. And just fyi, being a single parent sucks and is far from ideal for the child. If you PLAN on being a single parent, it would be much better for your child to simply not have children. It's not fair to the child to only have one parent.
Just my two cents.
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Don't listen to this guy! If you have the resources (money and support) and time to have a baby on your own, you can raise a perfectly happy and healthy child. Consider the number of people who have mundane, loveless marriages but convince themselves that everything is okay just because they've been married for x number of years and have a lifestyle that is privileged by the government and society.
lollis wrote:
BeatU wrote:30 YO chick says she is happier alone than without a perfect man but wants a dog and a kid. Pity the kid who she uses to replace the other adult and tries to smother and groom to her screwed up vision of perfection. The dog is probably too stupid to be harmed by her, well ,hopefully.
Not to derail the thread further, but this. I lived with a woman like this once, and I ended up actually urging her to never have children because I knew how horrible of a mother she would be and how terrible it would be for the kids. Nothing was ever good enough, everything had to be 100% her way, her idealistic thoughts were never obtainable or even remotely close to realistic... I imagined her children, if she ever had them, would likely end up committing suicide unless they were bright enough to not listen to her and find solace and comfort in other caring individuals.
I don't mean to demonize women specifically. Anyone who has highly narcissistic tendencies and perfectionist ideals is going to be an awful parent. In my own personal experience and observation, however, more women fall into this category than men.
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My god! Some of you letsrun guys will jump at any opportunity to project your failed relationship insecurities onto the entire population of women. If a woman is eager for a relationship, she's a needy, neurotic "b" trying to trap you in the prison of marriage. If a woman says she doesn't want to get married and that she prefers to go at it alone, she's a selfish narcissist.
Here's a clue. Women, just like men, are people. Some of them want relationships. Others don't. Some have high standards. Others have low standards.
You know what I take that back....adopting a child would be selfless.Obviously we are dealing with someone who doesn't believe humans are destroying the Earth and overpopulation isn't a real problem. I'm assuming this is a troll post at this point, but the scary thing is that people actually think like you do. The issue here also is that people of lower IQ also tend to pop out more biological offspring probably on average. Ever see that movie Idiocracy?You brought politics and your belief (or shall be say" non-belief") of science into this...
It starts with just one cat wrote:
babyboomerschild wrote:wow there "old guy."
(I'm a millennial btw).
How about it this:
It is actually a very selfish act to reproduce.
I mean c'mon man! Please tell me you are trolling...
And there it is. Sadly, this is what's at the heart of most of your generation's incoherent personal philosophies.
The most natural and beautiful part of life is .................... "selfish".
Surely your dope smoking college professors and lefty high school teachers must be proud. They hammered it home enough. How many times in different classes did you watch "An Inconvenient Truth"?
Even if you never saw Gore's slapdash science, you imbibed the underlying premises that form the basis of millennial "thought".
-Men (especially those awful white heterosexual masculine ones) are bad.
-Humans are destroying the Earth.
-All Truth is relative.
-All cultures are equal in worth.
-There are no important differences between men and women.
From these, you been rendered unable to make judgments about good and evil, except of course that "judging" is bad and that bigots and intolerance are intolerable. And worse, because you deny human nature and the reality of the sexes, you severely decrease the chances of having a strong family.
In short, you don't grow up. Society is worse for your sad excuse of a world view.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Just sayin'' wrote:reading this site, I think your love is right here. A lot of guys are echoing your problem.
Solution: Date dudes. enjoy your new found fishing hole
Yes! Someone else is making sense. No connection with girls? Try guys.
But, I still say OP is too focused on himself. He's going to win!!
The problem is not a lack of connection with girls. I realize you're being facetious, but it's so far off the mark as to be imbecilic at best. Most people outgrow finding humor in calling each other gay sometime in middle school. Try to catch up.
Lot to be said about the "settling down" thing, but more than 50% of guys married for 7 years or more will tell you they're unhappy and the rare sex they have now is a chore.
Know lots of couples where when junior goes off to college they split up.
GD wrote:
lollis wrote:Not to derail the thread further, but this. I lived with a woman like this once, and I ended up actually urging her to never have children because I knew how horrible of a mother she would be and how terrible it would be for the kids. Nothing was ever good enough, everything had to be 100% her way, her idealistic thoughts were never obtainable or even remotely close to realistic... I imagined her children, if she ever had them, would likely end up committing suicide unless they were bright enough to not listen to her and find solace and comfort in other caring individuals.
I don't mean to demonize women specifically. Anyone who has highly narcissistic tendencies and perfectionist ideals is going to be an awful parent. In my own personal experience and observation, however, more women fall into this category than men.
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My god! Some of you letsrun guys will jump at any opportunity to project your failed relationship insecurities onto the entire population of women. If a woman is eager for a relationship, she's a needy, neurotic "b" trying to trap you in the prison of marriage. If a woman says she doesn't want to get married and that she prefers to go at it alone, she's a selfish narcissist.
Here's a clue. Women, just like men, are people. Some of them want relationships. Others don't. Some have high standards. Others have low standards.
Except that she didn't say she wants to go it alone. She wants a kid and a dog unless she can find the perfect man, then she will take all three.
BeatU wrote:
30 YO chick says she is happier alone than without a perfect man but wants a dog and a kid. Pity the kid who she uses to replace the other adult and tries to smother and groom to her screwed up vision of perfection. The dog is probably too stupid to be harmed by her, well ,hopefully.
I know someone like that. Very liberal, in her 50's, no kids, never married, but is obsessed with her dogs and pampers them as if they were human. Definitely regrets her life, very sad to watch.
It starts with just one cat wrote:
The only good coming out of that millennial selfish bubble is that those hipsters are so self centered they don't tend to reproduce.
Even if you never saw Gore's slapdash science, you imbibed the underlying premises that form the basis of millennial "thought".
#1-Men (especially those awful white heterosexual masculine ones) are bad.
#2-Humans are destroying the Earth.
#3-All Truth is relative.
#4-All cultures are equal in worth.
#5-There are no important differences between men and women.
i'm a 29 y/o (christian) male who has just begun to recognize the relativism pervasive in millenials and our present culture in general. i sympathize.
though i disagree with you on #2. our great-grandparents consumed the same amount of energy in their lifetime as the typical american does in a month. most of which will take millions of years to create again.
will future generations have access to these resources? is the earth being left in a better state than when you were born?
those concerned with a legacy must confront these issues, i believe.
babyboomerschild wrote:
You know what I take that back....adopting a child would be selfless.
Obviously we are dealing with someone who doesn't believe humans are destroying the Earth and overpopulation isn't a real problem. I'm assuming this is a troll post at this point, but the scary thing is that people actually think like you do.
The issue here also is that people of lower IQ also tend to pop out more biological offspring probably on average. Ever see that movie Idiocracy?
You brought politics and your belief (or shall be say" non-belief") of science into this...
There is a short science fiction story I first read when I was a kid called "The Marching Morons" by CM Kornbluth. I just re-read it. Knowing nothing about Ideocracy, I'd take a guess and say the movie makers read it.
The protagonist Barlow is awakened hundreds of years in the future to find that 3 million intelligent people survived to run a world of 5 billion morons. The elite are forced to slave for the ignorant because they're so incompetent that the world would fall apart if the intelligent few were not willing to manage everything.
Barlow is told that the educated and intelligent like him did not have many children, if any, for so long their genes mostly disappeared. The stupid degenerates had loads of children. Now the average person has an IQ of 45.
The new society is coarse. "Would you buy that for a quarter?" is the punchline for Take It and Stick It, a popular program. Porn is everywhere. Cars are huge and shiny, but have speedometers that read 200 when the car is going 35. The morons are easily fooled by the phony rushing wind noise inside the car. People in this new society are dangerous morons, destroying everything around them.
This scenario is what so motivated the Eugenics Movement around the turn of the 20th century. Don't go there. It just leads to forced sterilizations, abortion and infanticide. Nazi big shots were influenced strongly by American Eugenicists and their writings.
We've already had enough evil from the Margaret Sangers of the world. Where do you think your concerns should lead? The only ones permitted to have children are the Ashkenazi Jews and maybe Northeast Asians?
Consider these possibilities:
-Humans are not destroying the Earth.
-Overpopulation isn't a real problem.
-You can stop worrying about things you don't control, lighten up, find a woman who's not too flawed, marry her and have some smart babies. The world will continue and you can enjoy it while you're here. Hopefully your wife will have the smart genes to pass on.
st louie wrote:
It starts with just one cat wrote:The only good coming out of that millennial selfish bubble is that those hipsters are so self centered they don't tend to reproduce.
Even if you never saw Gore's slapdash science, you imbibed the underlying premises that form the basis of millennial "thought".
#1-Men (especially those awful white heterosexual masculine ones) are bad.
#2-Humans are destroying the Earth.
#3-All Truth is relative.
#4-All cultures are equal in worth.
#5-There are no important differences between men and women.
i'm a 29 y/o (christian) male who has just begun to recognize the relativism pervasive in millenials and our present culture in general. i sympathize.
though i disagree with you on #2. our great-grandparents consumed the same amount of energy in their lifetime as the typical american does in a month. most of which will take millions of years to create again.
will future generations have access to these resources? is the earth being left in a better state than when you were born?
those concerned with a legacy must confront these issues, i believe.
If you haven't already, find a good Christian woman, have some babies, and let you and your family make society better. As the last 50 years have shown, the availability of resources continually expands because of the ingenuity of man. Don't take the road of Malthus and Ehrlich.
Don't buy the THE END IS NEAR! If you heard that from a fellow Christian, you'd probably think he was a nut and avoid him. You wouldn't talk to him, because, really, when it comes to religion and someone is setting a date for an Apocalypse, when does the alarmist care what you say?
Treat those leftists who are selling almost the same story in the same way. THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! They worship the religion of Environmentalism. No facts, logic, unbiased science or observed phenomenon will shake their faith.
It starts with just one cat wrote:
If you haven't already, find a good Christian woman, have some babies, and let you and your family make society better. As the last 50 years have shown, the availability of resources continually expands because of the ingenuity of man. Don't take the road of Malthus and Ehrlich.
Don't buy the THE END IS NEAR! If you heard that from a fellow Christian, you'd probably think he was a nut and avoid him. You wouldn't talk to him, because, really, when it comes to religion and someone is setting a date for an Apocalypse, when does the alarmist care what you say?
Treat those leftists who are selling almost the same story in the same way. THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! They worship the religion of Environmentalism. No facts, logic, unbiased science or observed phenomenon will shake their faith.
i don't buy in to the conventional apocalyptic sentiment at all, and have no fear of a human extinction event. nor of overpopulation - as a farmer i have a sense of how much the earth can provide. we're nowhere close to reaching our potential.
but i think 50 years is a blip. some resources of this earth are finite, especially fossil fuel - there is only so much dead plant + animal to burn. i think conventional christianity places too much emphasis on the "ingenuity of man"...not with great humility: "we'll invent our way out of this"..."we can consume more without sacrificing anything"...."technology will save us"...."we'll figure this out at some point down the road"....these don't sound so godly.
i'm not terribly concerned about global warming. i just think the current mass of people in the developed world are burning resources which future humanity won't have access to...for millions of years at least. feels selfish and that there will be hell to pay.
the pope's encyclical addresses this and i support it. have you read it?
FarOutMan wrote:
Lot to be said about the "settling down" thing, but more than 50% of guys married for 7 years or more will tell you they're unhappy and the rare sex they have now is a chore.
Know lots of couples where when junior goes off to college they split up.
ok, lets start.
Married 33 years, kids long since out of college and on their own. I got home last night after being away since saturday and had sex last night. it was great. Not my idea, she came to bed and initiated. Furthermore, she's smart, runs every other day and since breast cancer she seldom achieves orgasm, so shes not just in it for herself.
There are good women out there if you take the time to find them.
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