knower of things. wrote:
this is the oxymoran of all oxymoran's.
If you want a free market, join the illicit drugs trade. There is an abundance of free markets. Oh, wait, that isn't what you meant, right? Well, you can't have it both ways.
One man's crony capitalism is another man's social democracy.
Discuss.
Not an expert by any means wrote:
I know!!! For the first time in a long time, someone in power is at LEAST talking about American jobs that aren't UAW (looking at you, Detroit bailout), and the Trump haters are losing their freaking minds. The guy is a complete Ahole, but at least people are talking about American jobs again.[/quote]
I hate HRC and Obama's presidency has been an absolute shite show but I really don't get the point of paying a company $7million to keep 800 jobs here while they are still shipping 1300 to Mexico. Seems like bullshite to me. These jobs may not have been UAW but they are still union jobs.[/quote]
800 jobs at 40k per year is 32m of wages earned in the good old USofA. That's worth a few mil of personal income taxes, FICA taxes, sales taxes etc contributed to the federal and state economies. Not to mention welfare and unemployment benefit savings.[/quote]
Other side of the argument. Unemployment benefits in Indiana are $380 a week times 52 = $20,280 times 1,300 = $26,364,000
Tell me where this is a win?
Surely there is some less explicit value in having someone be gainfully employed vs. collecting unemployment benefits?
With politicians, their goal IS to go broke. That way they get a bigger budget next year. Trump's mindset is to maximize profits. That is the MAGA mindset
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
With politicians, their goal IS to go broke. That way they get a bigger budget next year. Trump's mindset is to maximize profits. That is the MAGA mindset
^This.
How many of the underemployed college grads of the past few years will apply for a steelmill job?
The benefits of jobs go beyond wages, taxes(local, state, federal), (FICA)SS contributions and less unemployment disbursements. These are all positives. However, there are many other benefits of having a job:
1. A Job, in most cases, keeps people busy, increases their responsibility, and improves their feeling of self-worth. The spin offs of this, have very real positive effects on both the individual and the individual's community. They are, without explanation, as follows:
a) drug use decreases
b) marriages are happier
c) divorce rate decreases
d) single parent families decrease
e) kids learn to be more responsible and moral
f) monies get distributed within the community
g) Jobs create the need for more products and professional service
h) more jobs are created
i) etc.
Jobs make economical and social lives better, period.
i hate trump, but it's hard to argue your point. Obama could have done 100 of these deals in the last 8 years.... even if it's effed up and not fully thought through, it's being discussed
WTF is happening??? wrote:
Bunch o dweebs wrote:Love it! The left is now the party that wants to outsource everything. Trump messes with people's minds like no other.
I know!!! For the first time in a long time, someone in power is at LEAST talking about American jobs that aren't UAW (looking at you, Detroit bailout), and the Trump haters are losing their freaking minds. The guy is a complete Ahole, but at least people are talking about American jobs again.