Official 2016 Wisco/Pre-Nats Discussion Thread

After you get knowledgeable, vote in our LRC fan polls and tell you how you think everyone should be ranked.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/10/top-10-ncaa-xc-teams-country-2016-ncaa-cross-country-fan-polls-open/

Knight, McGorty and Futsum will be a serious battle at Wisco. I'm going to pick McGorty, but it's a tough call. Syracuse will take the team title.

We've created a live results page here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/10/2016-wisconsin-nuttycombe-pre-nats-cross-country-results/

Does anyone know if they have published the entered team lineups for either meet?

ladedah wrote:

Does anyone know if they have published the entered team lineups for either meet?

Yes for Pre-Nats, no for Wisco.

Pre-Nats men:

Pre-Nats women:

We've tabulated our fan poll votes. The LRC fan poll has a top 10 that differs in a major way from the coaches USTFCCCA poll. In the coaches poll, NAU is #1 on the men's side. In the LetsRun.com poll, Syracuse is #1 and NAU is just #5. In the coaches poll, Stanford is just #11. In the LRC poll, the Cardinal are #4.

On the women's side of the ledger, the top three teams in the LetsRun.com top 10 are the exact same as the coaches poll.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/10/letsrun-com-ncaa-xc-fan-poll-1-lrc-nation-thinks-nau-way-overrated-syracuse-will-repeat/

LetsRun.com Men's Super Poll Results

1st place votes/points/coaches rank

1. Syracuse (25) 410 (#2)

2. BYU (3) 297 (#3)

3. Oregon (1) 279 (#4)

4. Stanford (7) 277 (#11)

5. Northern Arizona (6) 260 (#1)

6. Colorado (2) 246 (#6)

7. Iona (1) 187 (#8)

8. Portland 117 (#7)

9. Arkansas (1) 84 (#5)

10. Wisconsin 76 (#16)

LetsRun.com Women's Super Poll Results

1st place votes/points/coaches rank

1. Providence (20) 332 (#1)

2. Colorado (15) 292 (#2)

3. NC State 162 (#3)

4. Stanford 149 (#7)

5. New Mexico 149 (#11)

6. Washington 140 (#4)

7. Oregon 139 (#9)

8. Boise State (1) 138 (#10)

9. Portland 120 (#5)

10. Michigan State 95 (#6)

It should be pointed out that the Penn State meet is also this weekend. It's starting to turn into a third alternative as there were a number of ranked teams there.

The Penn State races are in the book. Frost delayed the start!!!

Here are the women's results:

#8 Penn State – 47

#25 Mississippi – 94

#14 Oklahoma St – 114

#30 West Virginia – 145

NR Texas – 147

RV Cornell – 172

NR Wyoming – 199

RV William & Mary – 221

On the me'ns side

#9 Oklahoma State- 47

#10 Mississippi - 49

#19 Virginia - 78

#28 Virginia Tech - 125

Texas (RV) - 161

Penn State - 206

William and Mary - 221

Pittsburgh - 227

Charlotte - 240

Duquesne - 250

Villanova (RV) - 299

More info here:

http://www.ustfccca.org/2016/10/featured/quick-recap-penn-state-national-open

Full results here:

http://www.runhigh.com/2016RESULTS/R101416AA.html

Jonathan Gault wrote:

ladedah wrote:

Does anyone know if they have published the entered team lineups for either meet?

Yes for Pre-Nats, no for Wisco.

Thanks. Was curious if Princeton's Curham or Bird were running at Wisco, as there is a rumor that Curham is injured at the moment.

AA Catarina Rocha is now reportedly RS for Prov.

Killer blow to their chances.

Looking forward to this race. Women go off in a few minutes.

I like the permanent structure at the finish line. The course was built as a possible host for nationals. Has any ground been made on that front?

Live results are here:

http://www.harriersolutions.com/xclive/live.aspx

2k resulfor women.

WOMEN'S TEAM SCORES - 2K

Place Team Points

1 Washington 71

2 UCLA 223

3 Providence 226

4 New Mexico 251

5 North Carolina St. 258

6 Georgetown 269

7 Michigan State 278

8 Notre Dame 288

9 BYU 298

10 Baylor 301

11 Villanova 322

12 Boise State 329

13 Harvard 359

14 Penn 377

15 Yale 419

16 SMU 422

16 Minnesota 422

18 San Francisco 429

19 Iowa State 456

20 Utah 467

21 Boston College 469

22 Florida State 512

23 Tulsa 519

24 Syracuse 569

25 Wisconsin 601

26 Vanderbilt 609

27 Weber State 620

28 North Carolina 728

29 Northern Arizona 773

30 Columbia 776

31 Princeton 827

Place Bib Name Yr Team Time Pace

1 417 Charlotte Prouse SO Washington 6:53.1 5:33

2 298 Sarah Collins SR Providence 6:53.2 5:33

3 277 Anna Rohrer SO Notre Dame 6:53.3 5:33

4 238 Alice Wright JR New Mexico 6:53.4 5:33

5 118 Brenna Peloquin SO Boise State 6:53.4 5:33

6 175 Courtney Smith JR Harvard 6:53.6 5:33

7 124 Isabelle Kennedy SO Boston College 6:53.6 5:33

8 107 Maggie Montoya SR Baylor 6:53.7 5:33

9 237 Calli Thackery SR New Mexico 6:53.7 5:33

10 415 Amy-Eloise Neale JR Washington 6:54.0 5:34

11 317 Charlotte Taylor SR San Francisco 6:54.5 5:34

12 324 Hannah Miller FR SMU 6:54.5 5:34

13 364 Claire Markey FR UCLA 6:55.0 5:34

14 102 Lindsey Bradley SO Baylor 6:55.0 5:34

15 414 Kaitlyn Neal FR Washington 6:55.3 5:35

16 399 Sara Tsai SO Vanderbilt 6:55.6 5:35

17 412 Katie Knight JR Washington 6:55.8 5:35

18 151 Carmela Cardama Baez SO Florida State 6:55.9 5:35

19 438 Hailey Whetten SR Weber State 6:55.9 5:35

20 137 Yesenia Silva SR BYU 6:56.1 5:35

Any updates?

Or in Letsrun: Is Got updates? Your welcome.

chinga lingo wrote:

Any updates?

Or in Letsrun: Is Got updates? Your welcome.

The main update is that the live results page is way ahead of the flotrack broadcast.

4k

Place Bib Name Yr Team Time Pace

1 238 Alice Wright JR New Mexico 13:44.7 5:32

2 417 Charlotte Prouse SO Washington 13:44.7 5:32

3 298 Sarah Collins SR Providence 13:45.2 5:32

4 175 Courtney Smith JR Harvard 13:45.2 5:32

5 277 Anna Rohrer SO Notre Dame 13:45.2 5:32

6 317 Charlotte Taylor SR San Francisco 13:45.4 5:33

7 118 Brenna Peloquin SO Boise State 13:45.4 5:33

8 124 Isabelle Kennedy SO Boston College 13:45.6 5:33

9 237 Calli Thackery SR New Mexico 13:45.6 5:33

10 415 Amy-Eloise Neale JR Washington 13:46.6 5:33

11 250 Erika Kemp SR North Carolina St. 13:46.7 5:33

12 107 Maggie Montoya SR Baylor 13:47.3 5:33

13 324 Hannah Miller FR SMU 13:48.4 5:34

14 102 Lindsey Bradley SO Baylor 13:48.4 5:34

15 251 Rachel Koon SO North Carolina St. 13:52.0 5:35

16 183 Erin Hooker JR Iowa State 13:52.0 5:35

17 438 Hailey Whetten SR Weber State 13:55.0 5:36

18 414 Kaitlyn Neal FR Washington 13:56.0 5:37

19 364 Claire Markey FR UCLA 13:56.8 5:37

20 281 Ashley Montgomery SR Penn 13:57.1 5:37

WOMEN'S TEAM SCORES - 4K

Place Team Points

1 Washington 85

2 North Carolina St. 146

3 Providence 162

4 New Mexico 187

5 Baylor 221

6 Michigan State 245

7 Notre Dame 266

8 San Francisco 280

9 BYU 307

10 UCLA 311

11 Villanova 315

12 Iowa State 323

13 SMU 331

14 Harvard 332

14 Utah 332

16 Boise State 340

17 Yale 343

18 Minnesota 363

19 Penn 365

20 Georgetown 423

21 Wisconsin 466

22 Syracuse 477

23 Tulsa 532

24 Vanderbilt 587

25 Princeton 665

5 athletes with 800 to go. Boise State Brenna Peloquin

and Rohrer seem to be battling it out now for the win.

rojo wrote:

5 athletes with 800 to go. Boise State Brenna Peloquin

and Rohrer seem to be battling it out now for the win.

Wright is up there as well. 3 way battle.

Brenna Peloquin of Boise takes it with a 20 flat.

Washington takes team title with 111 pts.

These are unofficial results.

Top 50 results

1 118 Brenna Peloquin SO Boise State 20:00.5 5:22

2 238 Alice Wright JR New Mexico 20:01.6 5:23

3 277 Anna Rohrer SO Notre Dame 20:03.1 5:23

4 415 Amy-Eloise Neale JR Washington 20:05.3 5:24

5 417 Charlotte Prouse SO Washington 20:08.2 5:25

6 175 Courtney Smith JR Harvard 20:09.0 5:25

7 250 Erika Kemp SR North Carolina St. 20:15.5 5:27

8 124 Isabelle Kennedy SO Boston College 20:17.3 5:27

9 237 Calli Thackery SR New Mexico 20:19.5 5:28

10 317 Charlotte Taylor SR San Francisco 20:21.9 5:28

11 107 Maggie Montoya SR Baylor 20:24.6 5:29

12 210 Alexis Wiersma SR Michigan State 20:28.3 5:30

13 281 Ashley Montgomery SR Penn 20:28.3 5:30

14 183 Erin Hooker JR Iowa State 20:28.5 5:30

15 102 Lindsey Bradley SO Baylor 20:30.5 5:31

16 298 Sarah Collins SR Providence 20:32.8 5:31

17 438 Hailey Whetten SR Weber State 20:34.0 5:31

18 251 Rachel Koon SO North Carolina St. 20:35.5 5:32

19 406 Angel Piccirillo SR Villanova 20:35.5 5:32

20 380 Grayson Murphy JR Utah 20:36.6 5:32

21 324 Hannah Miller FR SMU 20:36.8 5:32

22 274 Annie Heffernan SO Notre Dame 20:38.2 5:33

23 151 Carmela Cardama Baez SO Florida State 20:39.3 5:33

24 255 Alyssa Rudawsky SO North Carolina St. 20:40.2 5:33

25 364 Claire Markey FR UCLA 20:41.3 5:33

26 137 Yesenia Silva SR BYU 20:42.7 5:34

27 302 Katie Lembo JR Providence 20:43.4 5:34

28 220 Megan Hasz FR Minnesota 20:43.6 5:34

29 109 Peyton Thomas SR Baylor 20:43.9 5:34

30 306 Marie Bouchard SR San Francisco 20:44.6 5:34

31 110 Anna West FR Baylor 20:44.8 5:34

32 403 Siofra Cleirigh Buttn JR Villanova 20:45.5 5:35

33 265 Melanie Townsend SR Northern Arizona 20:45.8 5:35

34 414 Kaitlyn Neal FR Washington 20:47.4 5:35

35 379 Hannah McInturff JR Utah 20:48.2 5:35

36 409 Kaylee Flanagan SR Washington 20:49.3 5:36

37 300 Brianna Ilarda JR Providence 20:49.6 5:36

38 304 Millie Paladino JR Providence 20:50.5 5:36

39 399 Sara Tsai SO Vanderbilt 20:50.9 5:36

40 233 Sophie Connor SR New Mexico 20:53.2 5:37

41 460 Emily Waligurski SR Yale 20:53.9 5:37

42 219 Bethany Hasz FR Minnesota 20:54.4 5:37

43 134 Olivia Hoj FR BYU 20:54.4 5:37

44 336 Paige Stoner JR Syracuse 20:56.2 5:37

45 418 Nicole Zielinski FR Washington 20:56.8 5:38

46 253 Megan Moye SR North Carolina St. 20:57.3 5:38

47 314 Tatjana Schulte SO San Francisco 20:57.4 5:38

48 413 Anna Maxwell JR Washington 20:57.9 5:38

49 284 Cleo Whiting SR Penn 20:58.5 5:38

50 412 Katie Knight JR Washington 20:58.9 5:38

Unofficial Team Results.

#4 Washington wins, #3 NC State is 2nd and #1 Providence is third. If this is accurate, #6 Michigan State totally bombed as they are listed at just #19.

PRELIMINARY WOMEN'S SCORES

Place Team Points

1 Washington 111

2 North Carolina St. 149

3 Providence 152

4 New Mexico 185

5 Baylor 200

6 San Francisco 231

7 Utah 258

8 Iowa State 277

9 Notre Dame 278

10 BYU 285

11 Yale 300

12 Villanova 307

13 Penn 314

13 UCLA 314

15 Harvard 322

16 Minnesota 340

17 SMU 347

18 Boise State 355

19 Michigan State 387

20 Syracuse 399

21 Wisconsin 421

22 Georgetown 468

Top 100 Unofficial

PRELIMINARY WOMEN'S RESULTS

Place Bib Name Yr Team Time Pace

1 118 Brenna Peloquin SO Boise State 20:00.5 5:22

2 238 Alice Wright JR New Mexico 20:01.6 5:23

3 277 Anna Rohrer SO Notre Dame 20:03.1 5:23

4 415 Amy-Eloise Neale JR Washington 20:05.3 5:24

5 417 Charlotte Prouse SO Washington 20:08.2 5:25

6 175 Courtney Smith JR Harvard 20:09.0 5:25

7 250 Erika Kemp SR North Carolina St. 20:15.5 5:27

8 124 Isabelle Kennedy SO Boston College 20:17.3 5:27

9 237 Calli Thackery SR New Mexico 20:19.5 5:28

10 317 Charlotte Taylor SR San Francisco 20:21.9 5:28

11 107 Maggie Montoya SR Baylor 20:24.6 5:29

12 210 Alexis Wiersma SR Michigan State 20:28.3 5:30

13 281 Ashley Montgomery SR Penn 20:28.3 5:30

14 183 Erin Hooker JR Iowa State 20:28.5 5:30

15 102 Lindsey Bradley SO Baylor 20:30.5 5:31

16 298 Sarah Collins SR Providence 20:32.8 5:31

17 438 Hailey Whetten SR Weber State 20:34.0 5:31

18 251 Rachel Koon SO North Carolina St. 20:35.5 5:32

19 406 Angel Piccirillo SR Villanova 20:35.5 5:32

20 380 Grayson Murphy JR Utah 20:36.6 5:32

21 324 Hannah Miller FR SMU 20:36.8 5:32

22 274 Annie Heffernan SO Notre Dame 20:38.2 5:33

23 151 Carmela Cardama Baez SO Florida State 20:39.3 5:33

24 255 Alyssa Rudawsky SO North Carolina St. 20:40.2 5:33

25 364 Claire Markey FR UCLA 20:41.3 5:33

26 137 Yesenia Silva SR BYU 20:42.7 5:34

27 302 Katie Lembo JR Providence 20:43.4 5:34

28 220 Megan Hasz FR Minnesota 20:43.6 5:34

29 109 Peyton Thomas SR Baylor 20:43.9 5:34

30 306 Marie Bouchard SR San Francisco 20:44.6 5:34

31 110 Anna West FR Baylor 20:44.8 5:34

32 403 Siofra Cleirigh Buttn JR Villanova 20:45.5 5:35

33 265 Melanie Townsend SR Northern Arizona 20:45.8 5:35

34 414 Kaitlyn Neal FR Washington 20:47.4 5:35

35 379 Hannah McInturff JR Utah 20:48.2 5:35

36 409 Kaylee Flanagan SR Washington 20:49.3 5:36

37 300 Brianna Ilarda JR Providence 20:49.6 5:36

38 304 Millie Paladino JR Providence 20:50.5 5:36

39 399 Sara Tsai SO Vanderbilt 20:50.9 5:36

40 233 Sophie Connor SR New Mexico 20:53.2 5:37

41 460 Emily Waligurski SR Yale 20:53.9 5:37

42 219 Bethany Hasz FR Minnesota 20:54.4 5:37

43 134 Olivia Hoj FR BYU 20:54.4 5:37

44 336 Paige Stoner JR Syracuse 20:56.2 5:37

45 418 Nicole Zielinski FR Washington 20:56.8 5:38

46 253 Megan Moye SR North Carolina St. 20:57.3 5:38

47 314 Tatjana Schulte SO San Francisco 20:57.4 5:38

48 413 Anna Maxwell JR Washington 20:57.9 5:38

49 284 Cleo Whiting SR Penn 20:58.5 5:38

50 412 Katie Knight JR Washington 20:58.9 5:38

51 305 Abbey Wheeler FR Providence 20:58.9 5:38

52 187 Perez Rotich SR Iowa State 20:59.0 5:38

53 180 Anne Frisbie SO Iowa State 20:59.2 5:38

54 307 Elena Burkard SR San Francisco 20:59.8 5:38

55 228 Madeline Strandemo JR Minnesota 21:00.7 5:39

56 375 Amanda Gehrich FR Utah 21:01.0 5:39

57 177 Lisa Tertsch FR Harvard 21:01.4 5:39

58 196 Shelby Jackson SR Michigan State 21:01.7 5:39

59 140 Laura Young JR BYU 21:01.9 5:39

60 319 Holly Archer SR SMU 21:02.2 5:39

61 404 Katie Fisher JR Villanova 21:03.2 5:39

62 457 Meredith Rizzo SR Yale 21:04.3 5:40

63 230 Natasha Bernal SO New Mexico 21:04.5 5:40

64 444 Michelle Lee SR Wisconsin 21:04.6 5:40

65 243 Morgan Ilse SO North Carolina 21:05.1 5:40

66 325 Charlotte Tara Murphy FR SMU 21:05.2 5:40

67 365 Julia Rizk SO UCLA 21:05.3 5:40

68 382 Giselle Slotboom SR Utah 21:05.4 5:40

69 363 Carolina Johnson SO UCLA 21:05.4 5:40

70 249 Elly Henes FR North Carolina St. 21:06.3 5:40

71 439 Amy Davis SO Wisconsin 21:06.3 5:40

72 433 Ellie Child SR Weber State 21:06.4 5:40

73 456 Kelli Reagan JR Yale 21:07.4 5:40

74 354 Clara Langley SR Tulsa 21:08.4 5:41

75 453 Dana Klein JR Yale 21:09.5 5:41

76 138 Ashleigh Warner JR BYU 21:11.6 5:42

77 446 Alicia Monson FR Wisconsin 21:12.7 5:42

78 122 Paige Duca FR Boston College 21:13.3 5:42

79 268 Danielle Aragon SR Notre Dame 21:13.4 5:42

80 360 Cassandra Durgy FR UCLA 21:13.4 5:42

81 121 Gracie Tostenson JR Boise State 21:14.6 5:42

82 170 Erin Dietz FR Harvard 21:14.6 5:42

83 262 Mikayla Malaspina SO Northern Arizona 21:15.3 5:43

84 451 Ellie Atkinson SO Yale 21:15.7 5:43

85 454 Andrea Masterson SO Yale 21:16.0 5:43

86 358 Stacie Taylor SR Tulsa 21:16.0 5:43

87 178 Bethanie Brown JR Iowa State 21:16.2 5:43

88 113 Sarah Hastings JR Boise State 21:16.7 5:43

89 165 Josette Norris JR Georgetown 21:18.8 5:43

90 276 Lexi Pelletier JR Notre Dame 21:18.9 5:44

91 337 Emma Wilson FR Syracuse 21:19.3 5:44

92 327 McKenzie Altmayer FR Syracuse 21:19.9 5:44

93 231 Alex Buck FR New Mexico 21:20.4 5:44

94 280 Abigail Hong JR Penn 21:21.3 5:44

95 117 Clare O'Brien FR Boise State 21:21.6 5:44

96 247 Ryen Frazier SO North Carolina St. 21:23.0 5:45

97 282 Christina Rancan FR Penn 21:23.7 5:45

98 303 Lauren Mullins SR Providence 21:23.7 5:45

99 333 Mary Malone JR Syracuse 21:24.0 5:45

100 283 Clarissa Whiting SR Penn 21:25.6 5:45

ladedah wrote:

Thanks. Was curious if Princeton's Curham or Bird were running at Wisco, as there is a rumor that Curham is injured at the moment.

Curham is out for the season. That's what I've heard as a fan - not journalist.