Why would anyone want to live in the New England???????

Yep. Here is cold. This weather bugs so I want to study abroad, in the warm place. I've chosen Portugal, they have a great education system and awesome climate. I gave my certificates to translation (https://www.translateshark.com/portuguese.html ) and I cannot wait until they will be finished and I can apply to the Uni. I know that will be only 4 years abroad and then I should return home, but these will be good hot years far away from parents! :D

It's a liberal echo chamber that relies on the productivity of the rest of the country to fund its banking centers, siphons off a frictional cost, then cries to the government when they forget to carry their 1's and go bankrupt.

Ernie Boch Sr. wrote:

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nobody dreams of moving to New England. California, New York and to some lesser extent the Mountain West are the places people dream of.

Cut the crap, troll. Tons of college kids end up staying in the area after graduation each May. It's a major reason rent and real estate is so expensive.

Ernie Boch you have the most grating TV ads I hit the moot button when I hear you and you are a phoney and your band sucks.

FL breeds softness? It is 100x harder to run in Florida from April or May to October than it is ever to run in New England, where the weather is perfect for running about eight months a year and you just have to bundle up and not make quick turns some of the other months.

FL breeds softness wrote:

Maineiac wrote:

The winter is the worst time of the year to run here.

Nothing rivals running outside in a pristine, cold, snowy landscape.

jjjjjj wrote:

FL breeds softness? It is 100x harder to run in Florida from April or May to October than it is ever to run in New England, where the weather is perfect for running about eight months a year and you just have to bundle up and not make quick turns some of the other months.

The softness has crept into your cranium. Soon you'll find yourself lazing around buffets just to get away from the heat.

People from NE go to Flaw-duh to die after a productive life trudging through the snow and cold of Boston.

Rex Karz wrote:

Someone said the New England colleges are "overrated?" Which ones? Harvard? MIT? Amherst? Williams? Brown? Dartmouth? Middlebury? Wesleyan? Tufts? Brandeis? Bowdoin? Colby?

Harvard for one.

Nepotism.

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So far the best endorsement is the winters aren't "that bad".

All the mountains look the same and are barely mountains. The beaches are cold. The cities are awful and the rural areas are poor and racist. As far as people claiming the food is excellent, GTFO.

It's a miserable region that people bend over backwards to defend. It's probably no more miserable than the Deep South or Midwest, but nobody dreams of moving to New England. California, New York and to some lesser extent the Mountain West are the places people dream of.

Having grown up in New England, this is 100% accurate. The rural areas are very blue collar and family members suffer from alcoholism, which isn't helped by the lack of sunlight at those latitudes and cold winters. New England is a place of the past. The area is slowly dying with the exception of the hipster city areas. most people live there because they grew up there and they've never lived anywhere else. Or because they have rotting family members with health/drug addiction issues they have to take care of.

After every run with my wife we end up at a beach in York, ME. I always tell her I still can’t believe how fortunate we are to live where we live. New England is just physically beautiful. Not all of it, but that’s true of every place we’ve been (with the possible exception of Bavaria.) We love it in NE. Smart people, good jobs, interesting geography. (me originally from RI, she from NY)

The only thing I would change is the proportion of warm to cold weather. With that in mind, over the last decade or so, we’ve been travelling around the country looking for a place to spend 2 winter months out of the cold – Feb/Mar. We want ocean, so have been to all east coast states, also Colorado, Texas, Oregon, Florida, California. A lot of places have some great things, but not all the things we want. We had high hope for Florida and St Augustine comes close but is too small – very quickly you’re back to anytown USA, with strip malls, large developments & chain restaurants everywhere. So far we like Savannah, GA the best, also maybe somewhere around San Diego and we’ve not yet been to northern Cali except San Fran.

I don’t get the people thing though. There certainly are the occasional a-holes mostly I find people are quite decent – everywhere I’ve travelled.

Jeffy Tull wrote:

Rex Karz wrote:

Someone said the New England colleges are "overrated?" Which ones? Harvard? MIT? Amherst? Williams? Brown? Dartmouth? Middlebury? Wesleyan? Tufts? Brandeis? Bowdoin? Colby?

Harvard for one.

Nepotism.

It's not 1975 anymore buddy

This. I grew up in NE (admittedly coastal Connecticut, much milder than Vermont or Maine), and had several 500-days-in-a-row running streaks without ever going inside to run other than second workout in a double.

Re Johnny J. Kelley: He was my HS coach and probably never (literally) ran indoors on a track or treadmill in the almost 40 years I knew him. He won Boston, finished 2nd there five times, was on two Olympic teams, won the '59 Pan Am games, and was national marathon champ eight times.

cold,old,white wrote:

In the New England states like Maine, RI, NH, Vermont, I don't get it. It's cold, there is no economic growth there, the biggest industry is healthcare because of all the old people, there is no diversity pretty much old waspy white people, housing is way over priced, and the people are jerks.

Hey Myron, you tipped your hand complaining about Whites. Are you engaging in your Hillel House mandated hasbarat trolling? lol

FarOutMan wrote:

People from NE go to Flaw-duh to die after a productive life trudging through the snow and cold of Boston.

82º in Boston today......

I do not understand why people want to live in California or PNW ultra-liberal nonsense. The midwest goes without saying, worst of every amenity there. Some people like the South. Seems sunny with crime, poor people, bad culture and not a lot else.

NE wins almost every front, which explains trolls constantly choosing the top to attack. Traditional elite institutions remain there, more so closer to the big cities.

People are not jerks. Waspy white people? Who would you prefer? Homeless or illegal immigrants in California?

This guy is my twin!

I went to PC!!! Go Sox!

A mistake people not from New England seem to make is lumping all of the states together, which is understandable looking at the map and seeing how small they are. But they are all very different. Just as parts of each state vary enormously. If you know a thing about each state, here is how I would summarize them:

Vermont is Vermont (1/3 rednecks 1/3 hippies 1/3 old people with some crossover). No way to really consider it a portion of any other state. It is really unique.

New Hampshire is 1/3 Vermont 1/3 Boston 1/3 Maine

Maine is 1/3 New Hampshire 2/3 Maine (also very unique) Maine is also geographically larger than the rest of New England combined, though very sparsely populated.

Massachussetts is 2/3 Boston and 1/3 Vermont

Connecticut is 1/2 New York 1/2 Massachusetts

Rhode Island is mostly Boston, with Cape Cod thrown in

The rural/urban divide everywhere is stark. Politics are dominated by the big cities which are overwhelmingly liberal. There are many aging industrial cities which are purely an eyesore (Worcester, Lowell, Bridgeport etc). Hartford, Boston, and Providence are half ugly, half pretty. Burlington is Boulder.

Geographically much of the area is quite rural, but you wouldn't know that if you only visit Boston. For scenery I believe it is unbeatable. Everything is heavily forested, hilly, and in some places somewhat mountainous. There is lots of coastline if you like that. Lakes, ponds, and rivers galore.

The climate is pretty good for a runner. A Vermont winter is nothing compared to a Florida summer. If you live in Southern New England, I don't know how you can complain about 40 degrees being an average day in January. That's great running weather. Don't live up in Northern Maine and the cold isn't so bad. Springtime is hit or miss, summers usually pleasant, and fall absolutely spectacular.

Everything is pretty close. It isn't hard to visit 3 or more states in a day. That doesn't happen anywhere else in the country.

The architecture and character of the small towns and villages is also unmatched. There is nothing like taking a drive without knowing where you're going and passing through town after beautiful town. You don't need to plan anything, just explore. A four hour meandering drive with a few stops and you will fill your camera roll with beautiful shots.

I think there are positives to every place except the Midwest, but I've never seen a place in the US as beautiful as New England.