Kids beating me that ran 1/2 as much as i did over the summer

NO WITH RUNNING YOU GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN. GENETICALLY GIFTED MY ARSE. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN "GENETICALLY GIFTED" NO. SUCH. THING.

dfasdfsdf wrote:

The other kid is more genetically gifted.

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

lol now thinking about it yes that seems obvious, also when I ran that (a week and a half ago) I was doing all my easy runs at 7 min pace with guys running 16-17 min 5ks, so I think that contributed to it, so I slowed down my easy runs to guys running around 18-19, so like 8 min pace, no faster than 7:30

It is not just the pace. It is the mileage.

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Could be they are training to race and you are training to train.

What do you mean by this?

When you look at your training, you should be able to say that you put in some good work and gave your body time to recover and adapt to that work. If you feel fresh for each workout and race, you're doing it right.

Whether or not you ran 50, 80, 120 miles per week doesn't matter if you are not training first and foremost to run a great race, not to have a pretty training log.

why do you think that?

shortz wrote:

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

lol now thinking about it yes that seems obvious, also when I ran that (a week and a half ago) I was doing all my easy runs at 7 min pace with guys running 16-17 min 5ks, so I think that contributed to it, so I slowed down my easy runs to guys running around 18-19, so like 8 min pace, no faster than 7:30

It is not just the pace. It is the mileage.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

What do you mean by this?

When you look at your training, you should be able to say that you put in some good work and gave your body time to recover and adapt to that work. If you feel fresh for each workout and race, you're doing it right.

Whether or not you ran 50, 80, 120 miles per week doesn't matter if you are not training first and foremost to run a great race, not to have a pretty training log.

More miles equals faster times does it not? I don't feel great in workouts but i generally hit the times. I don't take off days very often, havent for a couple weeks. I just want to make varsity and i want to put in the work to do it and i feel that 50 miles is so little compared to so many people

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

why do you think that?

Slowing down the pace does not change the fact that you are running more miles. A mile uses the same amount of energy no matter the speed. Reduce your mileage.

More miles equals faster times, but faster miles also make you improve. But both of these options will not matter if you are not recovering everyday. Your body has to rebuild itself or it will not improve. This is basic training knowledge. Again, reduce your mileage. If you are tired, slow down or back off.

Should I go down to 45? 40? I don't wana go anywhere below 40, do you think I should?

another part is i got injured for 3 months over track season... but I was faster than these kids at the beginning of the summer too, so idk

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

When you look at your training, you should be able to say that you put in some good work and gave your body time to recover and adapt to that work. If you feel fresh for each workout and race, you're doing it right.

Whether or not you ran 50, 80, 120 miles per week doesn't matter if you are not training first and foremost to run a great race, not to have a pretty training log.

More miles equals faster times does it not? I don't feel great in workouts but i generally hit the times. I don't take off days very often, havent for a couple weeks. I just want to make varsity and i want to put in the work to do it and i feel that 50 miles is so little compared to so many people

I don't want to insult you, but rather than having me try to explain to you how this works on this forum, I would suggest you go to a library and pick out a book on training. Anything that has been published would seem to be a good introduction for you.

Stay the course.

Check your resting HR every morning before getting out of bed.

keep up the mileage, taper and do quality and you'll be good to go when the races start to matter. you aren't racing to win the early races.

No, I understand what you are saying, do you think I should see how the race goes and re evaluate after it to see how training is going and make sure it wasnt just a bad day? I can't do much now, we have a race saturday, I lowered mileage a little (no doubles)

son of bich wrote:

keep up the mileage, taper and do quality and you'll be good to go when the races start to matter. you aren't racing to win the early races.

You dont think I could be overtraining right now?

shortz wrote:

Which gene is that exactly and where is the DNA test results for the other kid?

ADAMTS16 and it's at home. I don't have it here at the office.

shortz wrote:

dfasdfsdf wrote:

The other kid is more genetically gifted.

Which gene is that exactly and where is the DNA test results for the other kid?

It's in his DNA, no need to look for it.

The mileage and the times tell the tale.

letsnot wrote:

NO WITH RUNNING YOU GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN. GENETICALLY GIFTED MY ARSE. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN "GENETICALLY GIFTED" NO. SUCH. THING.

dfasdfsdf wrote:

The other kid is more genetically gifted.

Well then explain why they get more from less.

toughness thats all

letsnot wrote:

toughness thats all

That's genetic too.