Jenny Simpson had a "I'm Going to Retire" Face

I call the shots wrote:

Dibaba has a mustache. Her coach was caught dumping syringes into a dumpster. "Oh no- those weren't for my athletes. I was testing them on myself." Dibaba is doped.

Who's got dirt, doping associations, speculations on Ayana? Her performance alone isn't enough. Same for Radcliffe. Show me the money. Who saw these women take drugs? Who gave them drugs? Who did they hang out with that's "doped to the gills"? CLEAN. /thread

Not sure about that logic. I think they are probably both dopers, but as far as evidence goes, I think three highly-suspicious blood values followed by changes in stories, wild excuses, and a dramatic change in policy on transparency outweigh a coach dumping syringes.

Virtually every grown woman who doesn't wax has a mustache, so that comment just shows your ignorance.

Caller of calls wrote:

Jenny lover for life wrote:

Leave her alone. Jenny's mine!

All yours, Wilbur.

It's not very often that a post on letsrun literally makes me laugh out loud, but this one did. Well done, sir.

In the words of Jim Jefferies, "you're literally as dumb as shit".

No OOC testing in Ethiopia. Open your eyes.

Who's to say Jenny isn't/wasn't doping herself? Anyway even EPO dopers can only microdose during race season due to the EPO test. It'll give you a boost but not as much pre-test.

Devil Dog wrote:

trainspot wrote:Genzebe's very most likely a doper. And I'm one who thinks Ayana's record is clean until proven otherwise.

This is not an American court of law. There doesn't need to be a presumption of innocence.

Prior to this Olympic final, there had only been five sub-30s ever run by women. And of those five, there was only ever one performance faster than 29:53, and it is a FACT that that time was doped.

So if sub 30s are extremely rare, and no clean runner had ever gone under 29:53, how does someone come along and run 29:17?

That would be the equivalent of Asbel Kiprop running 3:21.85 in the finals.

If no one has ever been under 3:26, and there's been a couple under 3:27, do you assume a 3:21 is clean?

Except 3:26 could be just as dirty as it was set in the EPO era. So wouldn't it be more like running a 3:25.5?

One thing we can say about Ayana and Dibaba is they haven't been roiding up out of season to give themselves manly legs and cores like the Chinese/Soviet women would do.

Answer wrote:Except 3:26 could be just as dirty as it was set in the EPO era. So wouldn't it be more like running a 3:25.5?

Oh it absolutely is dirty, I just didn't want to change the subject too much.

Take about five seconds off the fastest time you think was clean.

Say you think no clean runner has eve been under 3:28. Could you believe a sudden out of nowhere 3:23 is clean?

Others run the 800 on Pure Hate. Genzebe runs the 1500 on Pure Evil!