Do you believe that training makes a difference? Or should we all be sitting around doing absolutely nothing and then go out and win medals and set records? If training doews make a difference then, logically, anything that helps training become more effective should make a bigger difference. This si where PEDs come in. They help athletes do a greater volume of high intensity training without breaking down/suffering injury. This is why athletes use them!
Another piece of druggie mythology that everyon bandies about.
If you are more energy efficient, you are using less energy to complete the task. That's where your improved recovery comes from. From better fitness.
Premise: Posts on LRC go against the laws of thermodynamics
Information theory says that info can never be created or destroyed, only changed from one form to another. But every time I read LRC something is lost. Unless LRC is a black entropic hole (information), then this can't be.
rjm33 wrote:
Hello fred.
Do you remember JO's egregious drivel lower leg efficiency theory?
I have saved a study just for you:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27026848Mr. Jon Orange=plasma shift=JR... is wrong again.
Go JO JO!!!
Hi Weldon. Have a trolling good time?
Jon Orange wrote:
Another piece of druggie mythology that everyon bandies about.
If you are more energy efficient, you are using less energy to complete the task. That's where your improved recovery comes from. From better fitness.
Recovery is not just about energy, Jon.
Jon, have you tried running a race while holding your breath? That's more efficient.
It's about fitness. And when you are fitter, you use less energy to race faster.
When you eventually get it, it will be a Damascene revelation to you.
Jon Orange wrote:
It's about fitness. And when you are fitter, you use less energy to race faster.
When you eventually get it, it will be a Damascene revelation to you.
So when I use PEDs I improve my fitness and efficiency and run faster. Got it.
It's very clear you are not a scientist or capable of clear rational thought. However, should you ever have a lucid moment, ask yourself one very important question: why do you need to believe that performance enhancing drugs don't work? Alas, being incapable of rational thought, you will never take those first needed steps to recognize your mental disorder and free yourself from your conspiracy theory. Enjoy your flat earth, fool.
Jon Orange wrote:
Newton's second law of motion f=ma, force = mass times acceleration.
Apply this to any athletic event and efficiency of movement is the key to improved performance.
So when you race faster you are using less total energy to complete the race than your previous best time.
. . .
This ^ is so stupid that, as Wolfgang Pauli would say, it is not even wrong.
Good lord, how do people as stupid as you even get through the day? Do you tie your own shoes? Make your own breakfast? How?
The problem is the belief.
PEDs is concept, a CONCEPT not a fact.
A belief, not a fact a BELIEF.
The physics of the matter is ignored by everyone because they are convinced in the BELIEF, that elite runners use MORE ENERGY.
A false belief.
Understand?
chupacabra wrote:
Jon Orange wrote:It's about fitness. And when you are fitter, you use less energy to race faster.
When you eventually get it, it will be a Damascene revelation to you.
So when I use PEDs I improve my fitness and efficiency and run faster. Got it.
chupacabra, you've already tried to lecture me twice on the subject and got it hopelessly wrong both times. Have a good think and see why you need to get back to your studies.
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:
Jon Orange wrote:Newton's second law of motion f=ma, force = mass times acceleration.
Apply this to any athletic event and efficiency of movement is the key to improved performance.
So when you race faster you are using less total energy to complete the race than your previous best time.
. . .
This ^ is so stupid that, as Wolfgang Pauli would say, it is not even wrong.
Good lord, how do people as stupid as you even get through the day? Do you tie your own shoes? Make your own breakfast? How?
Here, I'll spell it out to you so can have something to work with:
If you had a bicycle with a power meter and you timed yourself going up a hill, you will find that if you multiply your power output, by your total time, the faster you go, the less total energy you are expending.
Same applies in running.
I'll point out the obvious to you; ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
Jon Orange wrote:
chupacabra wrote:So when I use PEDs I improve my fitness and efficiency and run faster. Got it.
chupacabra, you've already tried to lecture me twice on the subject and got it hopelessly wrong both times. Have a good think and see why you need to get back to your studies.
No. You lost. You always lose. You are a loser.
You miscalculated and even admitted it on the previous thread.
Get back to those calculations. You can't re-invent the laws of physics.
Jon Orange wrote:
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:This ^ is so stupid that, as Wolfgang Pauli would say, it is not even wrong.
Good lord, how do people as stupid as you even get through the day? Do you tie your own shoes? Make your own breakfast? How?
Here, I'll spell it out to you so can have something to work with:
If you had a bicycle with a power meter and you timed yourself going up a hill, you will find that if you multiply your power output, by your total time, the faster you go, the less total energy you are expending.
Same applies in running.
I'll point out the obvious to you; ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
Jon, is disease real? What about diabetes? Cancer?
If you believe those are real, then your argument about the body finding homeostasis is flawed. If your argument about homeostasis is wrong, then your argument about PEDs is flawed.
Jon Orange wrote:
Angry Willy wrote:There is a reason for "mostly a lack of interest". I will leave it to a scientist, like yourself to figure it out.
I'm not a scientist. That's the really sad thing about all of this. Why do I have toexplain basic physics to the people who are supposed to know this stuff???
The level of ignorance is something that I find mind boggling.
Thats your problem. You aren't a scientist. Several on this site, and we're telling you that you are an idiot.
No, the problem is that science is not being applied to the effciency question, just blind acceptance of the PED dogma.
Where are the letsrun posters who understand the basic physics of the matter?
Why are people trying to re-write the laws of physics here?
Biomechanical efficiency is a fact. I didn't make it up did I?
Running is a skill. Look up the word skill and get a grip on the problem you are failing to grasp.
Jon Orange wrote:
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:This ^ is so stupid that, as Wolfgang Pauli would say, it is not even wrong.
Good lord, how do people as stupid as you even get through the day? Do you tie your own shoes? Make your own breakfast? How?
Here, I'll spell it out to you so can have something to work with:
If you had a bicycle with a power meter and you timed yourself going up a hill, you will find that if you multiply your power output, by your total time, the faster you go, the less total energy you are expending.
Same applies in running.
I'll point out the obvious to you; ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
I'm finally convinced with this post that you are a troll because there is no way that you can't comprehend the fact that if you ride faster up the hill, the power output increases. Even my dog understands basic cause and effect. Based on my actual response to you above, ill give you a 7/10.
Your reading comprehension failed. Try again.
You multiply your power output by your time and your total energy output is less when you go faster.