eldoret question for trackhead

why would you need to resole a waffle flat at all? also, trackhead quit letsrun to become lagat's personal shoe advisor.

sacred cow wrote:

why would you need to resole a waffle flat at all? also, trackhead quit letsrun to become lagat's personal shoe advisor.

Does Lagat this?

vibram is an extremely long wearing carbon rubber. I assume he resoles them to extend their useable lifespan.

We resole them to have training shoes that are better than anything on the market right now. Think about it. Pick the best fitting spike you can find and put an outsole on it that matches the surface that you run on. I have a pair being made right now with a super soft, super light outsole that I will use for road racing only. I have a pair with a really hard aggressive tread fot the trails and a pair with something in between for road running.

I am currently running in the Brooks Z1 and it is the BEST shoe that I have ever had. I resoled Kennedy's, NB 500's amonf others. I've also taken regular trainers and ground them down and resoled them. I've cooked shoes in the oven to get parts that I wanted off them for other shoes and pieced together some of the most ugly shoes you have ever seen. But they were better for running than ANYTHING made right now.

here are my current training shoes:

H Street (track spike with rubber outsole)

Maxcat Street (old Nike XC shoe w/ new Maxcat upper)

NB 240 (xc shoe).

Here are the problems with those three:

-The NB 240 is a littel awkward in how it fits me and getting towards too much shoe. Mind you it does the job well, but it's definitely my least favourite.

-The Maxcat street is very good, fit could be slightly better, and midsole could be a little thinner, but I haven't too much to complain.

-The H Streets have the best ride, but the rubber outsole is so passive and so soft that it makes running on anytime of reasonably slick surface dangerous.

I want to perfect shoe, and it's not really made these days so guys like LaWoof and I have to fix shoes to make them work better for us. I'll try the Eldorets and likely the Vents too if I ever get some extra cash to blow. Ideally, I want something like an Eldoret or vent just for track workouts/races and then a modified Eldoret or Vent for everything else. No transitions.

BTW -- I have a pair of the Waffle 3, not bad, but just too narrow for my left foot.

OK, so its basically more about fit than it is price and profile. Thats clears some things up for me.

LaWoof, could you point me to the shoe store that does these modifications for you? I haven't found anyone that will do it.

LaWoof wrote:

I've cooked shoes in the oven to get parts that I wanted off them for other shoes and pieced together some of the most ugly shoes you have ever seen.

That's a bad idea, can make you V-E-R-Y sick and *will* ruin your lungs.

A heat lamp works very well, but only in a well ventilated place such as outside or by the opened door of a big garage.

LaWoof,

By the way, where do you get your outsole material.

I've resoled my shoes a lot in the past and usually got plenty of rubber from a friendly shoe repair place here.

Now I mostly stick with running barefoot but, for reference, am still interested in better materials.

Thanks.

Trackhead, what do you wear around the shop or when you go out to see a movie or whatever?

H Streets, or Maxcat streets particularly if it's raining -- the Maxcat Streets have that synthetic leather upper that does a much better job keeping water out than the H Street mesh which gets soaked immediately.

That was one of the things, I think, that helped me transition, as well as got me through a potentially injured achilles -- used the H Streets for everything, every day to help lengthen everything out.

I wore my H Streets last night when I went out to dinner with my wife..... She must really love me!!

How do you grind off the spike plate? I have an old pair of Supernova Cushions (when I "believed" in shoes) that I've cut up pretty good with a knife, most of the midsole. Now I'm wondering how to get them nice and even and stuff, the resoled at a shoe repair store? or would they even they up too??

To Trackhead and LaWoof,

I have read how you have 'shaved spikes' into road flats using the 'vibram' outsole. what types of glues are used in this process? does the glue have a cement in it that will increase the weight?

I looked at the pictures of LaWoof's asics, and am curious about the flexibility. is there any flex at all with the new outsole? and how long does it last? about how many miles can i expect to run on this type of outsole?

thanks.