any activity that requieres a judge to determine winner is NOT A SPORT...including diving, gymnastics, etc

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7 years ago 08/10/2016 6:52pm EDT

re: Metric Miler

I agree with the OP. My criteria is:

Athletic- no chess, spelling bee, or whatever other crap makes it on ESPN these days.

Competitive- there has to be a winner or loser, not just recreational exercise.

Unjudged- no diving, gymnastics, boxing, figure skating, etc. As another poster said, competitors in these events are still athletes, and among the best athletes in the world at that. Not trying to put anyone down, but I believe that sports are about competitors deciding things on the field using an objective system, no outside decision-making. And again, there's a big difference between judging and enforcing the rules of a sport.

7 years ago 08/10/2016 6:54pm EDT

re: Metric Miler

A referee can determine a winner in "sport". Just look at NBA referees caught in betting scandal. By your definition then basketball is not a sport.

7 years ago 08/11/2016 1:02am EDT

re: fastrunnerBen

Running well is an art form.

7 years ago 08/11/2016 6:54am EDT

re: fastrunnerBen

What about that French steeplechase dude who destroyed everyone in some Euro race but then the judges disqualified him because he took his singlet off before the finish line ?

7 years ago 08/11/2016 8:28am EDT

re: i chose D2

i chose D2 wrote:
John Clendon wrote:
Isn't every sport "judged"?
Any sport with a referee. Soccer, basketball, football, hockey, etc. The referee judges the players on the their ability to follow the rules. They have bias, too. Don't tell me they don't have bias.
Swimming is a sport right? Head to head competition? Yet they touch a board that judges them. It is a little more cut and dry than say gymnastics or boxing, but the timer judges them none the less, right?
https://static01.nyt.com/images/blogs/olympics/phelpscavic533.jpg
Did Phelps really beat Milorad Cavic in the 100m butterfly? The computerized mat may have JUDGED him wrong.
What did track and field officials do before race finish cameras? They JUDGED the athletes based on who they thought won. And most likely were wrong in some very close races.
To say a sport that is judged is not a sport, means you don't understand sport and competition.
I don't know if everyone on here is ignorant or just trolling, but there is a HUGE difference between a judge determining the score and goal or a clock determining the score while a referee determines if athletes played within the rules.

When it comes to gymnastics, it is not as different as you are suggesting. Judges ARE determining whether or not the athletes played within the rules. And that is basically it. The athlete's scores are not pulled from thin air. Their routine has a face value and that is the athlete's starting score. Points are deducted from this score based objective measures. It is the judge's responsibility to spot these deductions (which, of course, introduces a little bit of subjectivity; very similar to calling balls/strikes in baseball, goaltending in basketball, offside in soccer, etc).

7 years ago 08/11/2016 8:43am EDT

re: osm

Wrestling and boxing are among the most ancient and traditional sports, but somebody has to score it, so I guess they're out under the "unjudged" criterion.

7 years ago 08/11/2016 9:05am EDT

re: fastrunnerBen

Funny thing though, there is significantly less doping in all these sports too!

7 years ago 08/11/2016 10:50am EDT

re: Harry P

Harry P wrote:
i chose D2 wrote:
I don't know if everyone on here is ignorant or just trolling, but there is a HUGE difference between a judge determining the score and goal or a clock determining the score while a referee determines if athletes played within the rules.
When it comes to gymnastics, it is not as different as you are suggesting. Judges ARE determining whether or not the athletes played within the rules. And that is basically it. The athlete's scores are not pulled from thin air. Their routine has a face value and that is the athlete's starting score. Points are deducted from this score based objective measures. It is the judge's responsibility to spot these deductions (which, of course, introduces a little bit of subjectivity; very similar to calling balls/strikes in baseball, goaltending in basketball, offside in soccer, etc).

bingo!

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