Olympic Sprinter training for a mile

fred wrote:

Mike Smith 4:41, Dave Steen 4:21 - 1500 in a decathlon while fatigued.

Steen had 47 speed I think.

That's funny if you are Dave and not a troll.

Please stop. Im not a troll.

I tend to back off alot more these days. And hope I stay in shape. I get tired and sore after a hard work out and it takes 2- 3 days. I usually do something after 2 days but it not very useful in getting faster.

You would clean up on the Masters circuit.

Olympic Truth wrote:

Idontreallyknow wrote:

Says he lost to Gatlin in Athens but is 50?

And??? what's your point. I'm telling the truth. I didn't say I raced him. I was at the same Olys as him

My point is that no runner in the 100 or 200 from the 2004 Olympics is currently 50 years old. There is a 49 and 48 year old but not 50.

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Olympic Truth wrote:

And??? what's your point. I'm telling the truth. I didn't say I raced him. I was at the same Olys as him

My point is that no runner in the 100 or 200 from the 2004 Olympics is currently 50 years old. There is a 49 and 48 year old but not 50.

1) you are ignoring all the sprinters who ran the first pre-round, the ones from nations that had nobody run the qualifying standard.

2) he could be a relay leg only, you probably didn't look at all of them?

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Idontreallyknow wrote:

My point is that no runner in the 100 or 200 from the 2004 Olympics is currently 50 years old. There is a 49 and 48 year old but not 50.

1) you are ignoring all the sprinters who ran the first pre-round, the ones from nations that had nobody run the qualifying standard.

2) he could be a relay leg only, you probably didn't look at all of them?

I'm not ignoring the first round but I didn't go through the relays because personally I don't think he could say he lost to Gatlin if it was a relay especially when he wasn't in the same heat.

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Steen was bronze medal in the decathlon in 1988. He is currently 56. No way.

"Fairall still recalls watching Adjetey-Nelson compete for the first time.

In his senior year at St. Joseph, Adjetey-Nelson won gold at the OFSAA Regional championships in the long jump and 400 metres.

“It was a the making of an early decathlete,” Fairall added.

“Then, voila, a Commonwealth gold medallist.”

Jaimie is 32.He's capable of all those times, and I saw him dunk 2 hands with a standing no step jump.

He couldn't finish his last 1500 meters for qualifying for the Olympics, so I'm saying that this mile time thing is being driven by that.

You can't walk away from unfinished business.

Mike Smith

". At the Barcelona Olympics in 1992, he again injured his hamstring in the opening event and was forced to withdraw from the competition after the first day"

He's 49. Chronic hamstring problem, Mike?

Was the 100 time a flying start?

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Nice. Seems legit. There's good advice above. Let us know if you need more and how you progress. This is interesting.

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sfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

1) you are ignoring all the sprinters who ran the first pre-round, the ones from nations that had nobody run the qualifying standard.

2) he could be a relay leg only, you probably didn't look at all of them?

I'm not ignoring the first round but I didn't go through the relays because personally I don't think he could say he lost to Gatlin if it was a relay especially when he wasn't in the same heat.

Why can't you guys just leave someone alone. I do not want to be known. I like running, and every once in a while I may want to say things and hear things. If you guys keep it up. I'll just leave. Its not a big thing for me.

I was a decent sprinter and deca guy. No real big wins or fantastic times. I am disappointed/mad at the IAAF/IOC and the track world in general because of the drug use that has been going on since the 80s and no one is or has been clean for a long time. I know alot of these guys and I am 100% sure. I was close to a medalist, and he never said anything but in less than 1 year he went from losing to me by 8 meters to beating me by 1. While gaining weight and strength.I trained with him. Then 4 years later a medal and then another one. It was unreal. I

Im asking the people here to please leave me alone.

should be a breeze. I had been retired 15 years and ran 6:15 in 110 degree weather.

Just do some running, no need for weights or such.

This must be a troll.

singalongbigballs. wrote:

should be a breeze. I had been retired 15 years and ran 6:15 in 110 degree weather.

Just do some running, no need for weights or such.

This must be a troll.

Says the troll.

I just like lifting. I think I can run about a 6:15-6:30 now. Trying today. I would like to break 6. 5;15 is the goal. I'll take a sub 5:30.

I hope you get the advice you're looking for, Olympic Truth, without all the trolling BS on here.

But I expect it won't happen. Good luck on your goal. Take it gradually, brother. Us older dudes need extra recovery time. That's the tough part, holding back.

So when you do your 300m repeats, you will run them much slower than you are used to. 5:30 mile pace is 61.8 seconds per 300m, way slower than the 40 seconds you can run at close to max. You will do more of them, and with less recovery, than you do for sprint training. You can follow a progressive scheme where you run the 300m reps at 67.5 seconds early in the season (6:00 minute mile pace) and gradually increase the speed to your goal pace (61.8 secs for 300m) and ideally faster than goal pace by mid or late season. Bowerman would time a runner pre-season to see what kind of shape they were in, then use that pace as their "date pace" and the pace they hoped to achieve would become the "goal pace." Keep in mind that this kind of higher volume (more reps) and lower intensity (relative to your speed as a sprinter) will retrain your fast twitch fibers and CNS and will make you slower as a sprinter. Are you sure you really want to run a faster mile? Seems your sprint speed is excellent and you can have a lot of fun in masters sprint events.

I really appreciate the advice. I do want to run the mile. All this talk on this board kind of motivated me. And I could run a decent mile back in the day but it has been over 10 years since I trained and ran one for time. I just don't want to get hurt. So I am going easy increasing the reps slowly. I like the challenge. Either way I'm only training for 2-3 months. I plan on running a time trial in October and then back to sprint training. Unless I like training this way better.

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I hope you get the advice you're looking for, Olympic Truth, without all the trolling BS on here.

But I expect it won't happen. Good luck on your goal. Take it gradually, brother. Us older dudes need extra recovery time. That's the tough part, holding back.

Not much trolling in this thread. Mostly it is people either not believing he is an olympian or trying to figure out which olympian he was.

Could all have been avoided if instead of identifying himself as "an Olympic sprinter trying to run the mile" he had just identified himself as a "former sprinter trying to run the mile." The fact that he was an Olympic sprinter adds no value to the question and just confused the issue.

It isnt like the advice should be different whether he was a 10.3 100m like he said or a 10.8 100m runner. How to go about training for the mile should be the same for either of those two sprinters.

Also, I'm not sure why he felt the need to bring up his belief that every single current olympian is doping. Why derail your own thread?

Anyway, he's gotten some good enough advice on how to go about training. But some of it he rejected because "I just like lifting."