Would Steve Prefontaine be relevant today?

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

He would be 65 years old. Probably be an NBC commentator. I bet he would be way better that Masback.

Is the actual question whether 65 year old Pre would be relevant? - because that does seem interesting

weak argument wrote:

crazy and sleazy wrote:

The cheating culture at Oregon started long before Salazar, with Bowerman.

Completely baseless and meaningless statement without evidence presented. Seriously, you don't even give an anecdotal I-heard-it-through-the-grapevine-when-I-ran-there reference. You are a lying troll. Do not post here again.

Many stories about Bowerman's cheating, many coming straight from Bowerman. Even in the fanboy "Men of Oregon" book there are several examples of Bowerman's cheating.

Don't get all butthurt because your little hero was a proven cheater.

Billy admitted it wrote:

weak argument wrote:

Completely baseless and meaningless statement without evidence presented. Seriously, you don't even give an anecdotal I-heard-it-through-the-grapevine-when-I-ran-there reference. You are a lying troll. Do not post here again.

Many stories about Bowerman's cheating, many coming straight from Bowerman. Even in the fanboy "Men of Oregon" book there are several examples of Bowerman's cheating.

Don't get all butthurt because your little hero was a proven cheater.

Yes, Bill Bowerman was a notorious cheater. That is a fact beyond dispute.

Pre would be 65 years old today. I don't think he would be relevant.

BIG wrote:

Billy admitted it wrote:

Many stories about Bowerman's cheating, many coming straight from Bowerman. Even in the fanboy "Men of Oregon" book there are several examples of Bowerman's cheating.

Don't get all butthurt because your little hero was a proven cheater.

Yes, Bill Bowerman was a notorious cheater. That is a fact beyond dispute.

He was well known for (and admitted to) breaking the rules to benefit his own team. The definition of a cheat.

eugene clown kollege wrote:

BIG wrote:

Yes, Bill Bowerman was a notorious cheater. That is a fact beyond dispute.

He was well known for (and admitted to) breaking the rules to benefit his own team. The definition of a cheat.

Wasn't it Bowerman who literally pissed on people? Was he pedophile, a bully, or both? That puts him in the league of Sandusky and JoePa. Makes sense, considering that Nike only wants statues and buildings named after criminals like JoePa, Lance, Salazar, rapist Kobe, and Bowerman.

Billy admitted it wrote:

Don't get all butthurt because your little hero was a proven cheater.

^ BEHOLD!!! Middle school speak. How very adult of you.

Hopkinton wrote:

Billy admitted it wrote:

Don't get all butthurt because your little hero was a proven cheater.

^ BEHOLD!!! Middle school speak. How very adult of you.

Parse it any say you want, people don't go to Oregon because it is a clean program. Hasn't been for decades.

Hopkinton wrote:

Billy admitted it wrote:

Don't get all butthurt because your little hero was a proven cheater.

^ BEHOLD!!! Middle school speak. How very adult of you.

You have to communicate in language that the fanboyz will understand. Middle School speak seems about the correct level.

If Pre was willing to get on the NOPe dope, Centro Sauce and Oregon Juice, he could have been very fast. He had unsurpassed talent, but didn't seem willing to train very hard. Just get him on a modern Portland style doping and training regimen, he'd be right up there.

What if he moved to Flagstaff and took lots of caffeine?

I love Pre, but with those times, to LR, no. Is there a guy running those times today who LR doesn't consider to be a hobby jogger? For the record, I consider these times amazing. Yes he was super charismatic, and now it's the age of social media, but who's a charismatic, defiant "B" player that is relevant today?

If you factor in new tracks, rabbits, better shoes, etc, maybe his times come down, I don't have the insight to predict how much. But given the fact that Jim Ryun was faster than that long before Pre, I wouldn't expect Pre's times to come down super far.

Erm, Ryun was a true middle distance runner while Pre was long distance, so comparing their mile times doesn't prove much. Also, you seem not to realize Ryun was only 4 years older than Pre.

Thank you for posting a refreshing, interesting question on this trashy message board. It's a nice change.

I think if Pre were alive today, and in his prime (age 24) he'd be amazing.

Several people seem to think the question is asking whether a 65 year old Pre would be relevant, and that is clearly NOT the question.

No.

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Portlandisha wrote:

Hopkinton wrote:

^ BEHOLD!!! Middle school speak. How very adult of you.

You have to communicate in language that the fanboyz will understand.

What on earth for?

Great Questions wrote:

Thank you for posting a refreshing, interesting question on this trashy message board. It's a nice change.

I think if Pre were alive today, and in his prime (age 24) he'd be amazing.

Several people seem to think the question is asking whether a 65 year old Pre would be relevant, and that is clearly NOT the question.

These questions about inserting past athletes, but "in their prime" isn't really fair since many current athletes aren't even in their prime.

I don't think anyone really thinks the question means a 65 year old Pre, taking stupid questions literally is humorous to some people.

Tommy lee jones' zinger from the movie Cobb is my favorite example of this.

As for Pre, he never even won an Olympic medal in his prime. why would he challenge Rupp today?

Hopkinton wrote:

Portlandisha wrote:

You have to communicate in language that the fanboyz will understand.

What on earth for?

Otherwise, you may as well write in the unintelligible style of the brosjo.

800 dude wrote:

I absolutely think that Pre today would have been a 13:05 guy.

13:05? More like 12:55 (and 26:45). He had more guts than any of the current runners.