15-year-old (NOR) runs 3:44.97

Well the American HS freshman all-time record is 4:09 for 1600m. Webb has the American Sophomore record at 4:06.94 for the full mile. 3:44.97 is UNREAL for a 15-year-old. Next Kiprop?

The kid is really progressing. Isn't that at least a five second drop from last year in the 1500m? The conversion I get is to 4:03 mile. So, at least six seconds better than any American has run at that age. The sophomore record is around 4:06 (usually, a sixteen year old)--Webb, Lockhart, and possibly another since ran that time. I think that Ryun was close to it. The junior record (usually 17 years old) is Ryun's 3:58, I believe, senior record is 3:53 (German ran 3:55i as an 18 year old freshman in college), while Ryun ran 3:51 at 19 for the "junior" record (under 20 that calendar year). Of course, with his coaching, he is way ahead of most but you do figure that he'll be at least as good as the best of the older brothers.

adsfadsfasdf wrote:

Well the American HS freshman all-time record is 4:09 for 1600m. Webb has the American Sophomore record at 4:06.94 for the full mile. 3:44.97 is UNREAL for a 15-year-old. Next Kiprop?

I think you're referencing Taye's time? I wouldn't really count that.

As for the SOPH record....Webb hasn't held that in a long time. He's #4 I believe. See and Miller both broke it over a decade ago.

This "kid" is very developed and heavily trained. It remains to be seen how much he will improve.

that he is so fast at that age,and so developed,doesnt look good for his future.but then hes got two super quick older brothers,so he might keep improving.

Karma Police wrote:

This "kid" is very developed and heavily trained. It remains to be seen how much he will improve.

Jagaloon

lefse and lutefisk wrote:

Noticed on the Oslo start lists that the older Ingebrigtsen brothers are in the Dream Mile and 15-year-old Jakob is in the national mile with a new PR of 3:44.97 that he set last week. He also ran 1:52.05 last month.

Has an American 15-year-old (he would have finished his freshman or sophomore year in HS) ever run a 4:02.xx mile or the equivalent? I can't find anything close to that, this kid looks unreal.

That's super impressive!

However, most of the best H.S. distance runners I coached had obvious natural talent, but no running background prior to H.S. They would barely break 5 minutes as a freshman, but they would come back and run 4:30x as sophomore and 4:15 as a junior. I've had kids with an extensive running background who would run 4:30x as freshman, 4:20 as a sophomore and 4:15 as a junior. (You get the point!)

There is no doubt that if you are running 50mpw at age at the youth level, you are going to run very fast at a young age, but your margin for improvement is smaller.

Karma Police wrote:

This "kid" is very developed and heavily trained. It remains to be seen how much he will improve.

True. Flip side he is indeed 15 and not a 22 yr old E. African claiming to be 15 . Sure, there have been legit African junior freaks, like Kiprop, but overall they've been as bad as African soccer teams - a problem fixed via MRI. Look that up, hilarious story.

lefse and lutefisk wrote:

Noticed on the Oslo start lists that the older Ingebrigtsen brothers are in the Dream Mile and 15-year-old Jakob is in the national mile with a new PR of 3:44.97 that he set last week. He also ran 1:52.05 last month.

Has an American 15-year-old (he would have finished his freshman or sophomore year in HS) ever run a 4:02.xx mile or the equivalent? I can't find anything close to that, this kid looks unreal.

What's it now? Every week? Someone drums up a fresh thread about the youngest Ingebrigtsen or how there are three brothers who are fast? Do you people not read the forums?

Reindeer Blood!

Driouch was really fast at that age too...

From watching a video of this kid from last year, I know that while he is well-trained, he is far, far from physically mature. The kid is small and not muscular. Give him five more years and, on reflection now, I think that we'll see a sub 3:30 from a Norwegian for the first time, and they won't need to get an immigrant from Ethiopia or Kenya to do it.

jjjjj wrote:

From watching a video of this kid from last year, I know that while he is well-trained, he is far, far from physically mature. The kid is small and not muscular. Give him five more years and, on reflection now, I think that we'll see a sub 3:30 from a Norwegian for the first time, and they won't need to get an immigrant from Ethiopia or Kenya to do it.

Wasn't very developed early last year but you should see him right now, kid would pass for 18.

jjjjj wrote:

From watching a video of this kid from last year, I know that while he is well-trained, he is far, far from physically mature. The kid is small and not muscular. Give him five more years and, on reflection now, I think that we'll see a sub 3:30 from a Norwegian for the first time, and they won't need to get an immigrant from Ethiopia or Kenya to do it.

The older brother is already at 3:31 and only what, 25? I think the sub-3:30 could happen sooner.

Classixx - Faraway Reach wrote:

lefse and lutefisk wrote:

Noticed on the Oslo start lists that the older Ingebrigtsen brothers are in the Dream Mile and 15-year-old Jakob is in the national mile with a new PR of 3:44.97 that he set last week. He also ran 1:52.05 last month.

Has an American 15-year-old (he would have finished his freshman or sophomore year in HS) ever run a 4:02.xx mile or the equivalent? I can't find anything close to that, this kid looks unreal.

What's it now? Every week? Someone drums up a fresh thread about the youngest Ingebrigtsen or how there are three brothers who are fast? Do you people not read the forums?

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Yep, 3:39 any day now.

adsfadsfasdf wrote:

Well the American HS freshman all-time record is 4:09 for 1600m. Webb has the American Sophomore record at 4:06.94 for the full mile. 3:44.97 is UNREAL for a 15-year-old. Next Kiprop?

It's 4:08.something now.

Eli Krahn from Stillwater Area High School in MN. This was four years ago.

jeff tallon wrote:

that he is so fast at that age,and so developed,doesnt look good for his future.but then hes got two super quick older brothers,so he might keep improving.

I certainly expect he will improve, but the question is how much? If he's already training like an adult and is shaving, then he only has adult improvements to go. Most 15yos will improve their 1500 by at least 20 seconds, as a fully developed and grown adult.

Karma Police wrote:

This "kid" is very developed and heavily trained. It remains to be seen how much he will improve.

You can't "Train" physical differences that occur from 15 to 25 dawg.

Wait what the shi wrote:

adsfadsfasdf wrote:

Well the American HS freshman all-time record is 4:09 for 1600m. Webb has the American Sophomore record at 4:06.94 for the full mile. 3:44.97 is UNREAL for a 15-year-old. Next Kiprop?

It's 4:08.something now.

Eli Krahn from Stillwater Area High School in MN. This was four years ago.

adsfadsfasdf, You are 0 for 2.

From Ohio State's website profile on Jeff See:

"broke Olympian Alan Webb's national high-school sophomore mile record in 2003 ..."