Has a high schooler ever won an XC and a 400 meter state championship?

Mitten man wrote:

Ryan Shay competed in an extremely weak division and probably could have attained this. Not the point of the thread, I know, but he could have.

Shay could've won the 400??!! Hahahahahahaha

I'd wager at least 50 people have done it. Not sure why one would have to wonder if it had ever been done.

OnlySmartOneHere wrote:

Mitten man wrote:

Ryan Shay competed in an extremely weak division and probably could have attained this. Not the point of the thread, I know, but he could have.

Shay could've won the 400??!! Hahahahahahaha

During Shay's career the winning times for 400m in Class D ranged from 50.2 - 50.8. Considering Shay barely broke 2 for 800m and was an aerobic beast, it seems pretty safe to say that he wasn't sniffing 50.XX.

What about 100 and XC?

Zach Zingsheim from Lansing Catholic in Michigan was close. Won XC then won 4x800, 4x200, 800, 4x400. Went to Georgetown, not sure what happened to him.

HS PRs- 49.27, 1:54.03, 15:37. A bit of a weak field his senior year of XC.

Flagpole wrote:

Just not impressive at all simply to be a "state champion".

Have never agreed with anything Flagpole has ever said and the streak continues.

Of course winning a state championship is impressive

This is doable if a very talented middle distance athlete happens to be in a weaker (smaller) division. Emma Erickson (2008 d2 800m champ) of South Dakota won state XC along with the 400, 800, 1600, and medley during her senior year at Gayville-Volin.

Did Alan Webb ever run a 400m in HS? I thought he did, but looking over the internet, I can't find anything. Certainly if he could split 1:47 in an open 800 (his time at state) you'd think he'd be at least a 48.x guy... my gut would say 47.x. Not sure if that wins in Virginia or not.

Sara Stoakes of North Tama in Iowa's smallest class did this and a bunch more, 2006-2009.

http://iowahighwayends.net/blog/2014/05/sara-stoakes-inducted-into-track-hall-of-fame/

Career Individual State Championships:

100

200

400

400h

800

1500

XC

She was a year behind the Dinsdale twins who were dominating middle distance and XC in Iowa so she ran shorter distances+XC for her first 3 years. She was part of a 4 straight team track titles, and topped it off with a 40 point solo championship as a senior winning the 400, 400h, 800 and 1500.

smallstatetitles wrote:

I live in Maine so that kind of thing happens frequently. Harris of Penn State either won or was xc runner up his jr year of high school. Set the state 200m and 800m state records last year. Had another guy back in 08 I believe win xc in 16:20 and run 49.x in the spring to win the 400m (also placed in the 100m and 200m). Carsyn Koch the d2 800m champ was a 4x xc champ in high school as well as a multiple time 100m champion.

Harris never did won XC. Nor did he win the 400, although he could have.

Nick Williams did in '08, although his win in XC was partially due to the defending champion having a severe ankle sprain. It was the only time that season that he beat him (he lost to him again at New Englands the next time they raced).

Carsyn Koch never won the 400. But, as you say, she won the 100 and would certainly have won the 400. Lots of runners could have.

Ben Fletcher won XC and the indoor 400.

Brian Pettingill most certainly could have.

Ryan Jacobson of Gibraltar did this in WIAA D3 competition -

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-itrack/mtt/jacobson_ryan00.html

Future Badger Dan Murray would have been a good candidate for this in WIAA D2. He took 4th in D2 xc and won state in the 400. Later he was an all-american in the 800 for UW.

Having heard rumors that 1983 National Junior 800m Champ Rodney Giles was 2 x Maryland State XC champ I checked it out. His best was only 9th.

Even so, he matches up pretty well with this monster quadruple from 1983:

Rodney Giles, Northern, 1983 Maryland State Championships (5 hours)

8 x 800 1:46.7 (1st making up 100m deficit)

1600 4:17.8 (1st)

400 47.8 (1st)

800 1:51.0 (1st)

Hooray wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Just not impressive at all simply to be a "state champion".

Have never agreed with anything Flagpole has ever said and the streak continues.

Of course winning a state championship is impressive

Why are you impressed with that? There are state champions in cross country in some states and divisions that would not make the varsity team on tons of decent teams in a tough state. So, a boy who runs over 17:00 to become a state champion is impressive? Sorry, it isn't.

Briana Gess, NJ group 2 XC champ and group 1 indoor 400 (and 800/1600/3200) champ

Flagpole wrote:

Hooray wrote:

Have never agreed with anything Flagpole has ever said and the streak continues.

Of course winning a state championship is impressive

Why are you impressed with that? There are state champions in cross country in some states and divisions that would not make the varsity team on tons of decent teams in a tough state. So, a boy who runs over 17:00 to become a state champion is impressive? Sorry, it isn't.

You're flat out wrong Flagpole. Winning the State Championships is the epitome for all high schoolers. Culturally, teenagers spend 2-3 years watching older, stronger kids win those titles, then suddenly they find themselves in a position that they could actually do it, then they, themselves do it.

malmo wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Why are you impressed with that? There are state champions in cross country in some states and divisions that would not make the varsity team on tons of decent teams in a tough state. So, a boy who runs over 17:00 to become a state champion is impressive? Sorry, it isn't.

You're flat out wrong Flagpole. Winning the State Championships is the epitome for all high schoolers. Culturally, teenagers spend 2-3 years watching older, stronger kids win those titles, then suddenly they find themselves in a position that they could actually do it, then they, themselves do it.

I get that you can only run against who you run against, but some divisions in some states are so bad that it's just not impressive. They win it and run 15:12, then ok, but anything over 17:00 that qualifies as a state champion? Meh. I can't say that's impressive. Good for them for improving, but other than that, I can't give them a pat on the back.

...NH is a weak state, and no one running over 50 in the 400 should win a state championship.

Possiblymaybecouldhave wrote:

Zachary Wright of Conant High School in NH ran a 50.6 400m, 4:09 1600m, and ran 15:46 in XC 5k. Maybe he could have done it in a weak state.

Has a high schooler ever won a field event and xc state championship?

Rodney Giles won the state XC championship twice. He also won the state 400m and indoor 300m. (47.4)

He was a HS 1:46 800m runner (relay) 1:48 open