This has been mentioned in at least 2 other threads but I think it deserves a thread of its own now.
Kim Collins, at 40 years old now, has now become the first ever masters athlete ever to break 10.00 in the 100m, running 9.93 in +1.9 m/s wind in Bottrop, Germany yesterday. The mark is a lifetime PB for him (previous 9.96) and puts him at #2 on the world list.
Results:
And does anyone know if there's a video out there of it? I couldn't find one.
Age is just a number.
coach d wrote:
Age is just a number.
Unfortunately if your clean and 40 years old that number is higher than 9.93.
There are enough people like Hal Higdon, for whom Dr. David Costle measured VO2max to essentially not change from age 36-50, that I have my doubts that age is the primary factor. Other things like consistency, willingness to train hard, injury avoidance and recovery, access to facilities, and staying up-do-date in terms of training theory and physiology are perhaps more important. We have more and more people learning to take better care of their bodies and extend their careers. It's not like 9.93 just came out of nowhere. I just don't think a lot of older athletes work as hard as they did when they were younger.
"Old age and treachery beats youth and skill"
coach d wrote:
There are enough people like Hal Higdon, for whom Dr. David Costle measured VO2max to essentially not change from age 36-50, that I have my doubts that age is the primary factor. Other things like consistency, willingness to train hard, injury avoidance and recovery, access to facilities, and staying up-do-date in terms of training theory and physiology are perhaps more important. We have more and more people learning to take better care of their bodies and extend their careers. It's not like 9.93 just came out of nowhere. I just don't think a lot of older athletes work as hard as they did when they were younger.
"Old age and treachery beats youth and skill"
I'm usually the first guy to give a similar argument about athletes and aging but there is no doubt that there is a drop off even if it is slight by the time your 40. And we are talking about a guy who has been world class for a long time running the best time of his life at 40 years old. By that logic and the idea that V02 max doesnt drop till 50 years old, Lagat could go out and break the WR 1500.
If he is clean, more power to him. And here is the thing. If your clean and people are making making claims that your on PED's, that is the ultimate compliment in my book.
And what does "treachery" mean in the context of world-class sprinting?
coach d wrote:
"Old age and treachery beats youth and skill"
habs wrote:
This has been mentioned in at least 2 other threads but I think it deserves a thread of its own now.
Kim Collins, at 40 years old now, has now become the first ever masters athlete ever to break 10.00 in the 100m, running 9.93 in +1.9 m/s wind in Bottrop, Germany yesterday. The mark is a lifetime PB for him (previous 9.96) and puts him at #2 on the world list.
Results:
http://live.seltec-sports.de/2016/bottrop/r104000001.htm
Good god would someone target test this clown already??
this is just ridiculous. Anybody who believes this guy is legit needs to go away. peptide abuser without question
Just watch Mo Farah, Rupp, etc run races. Older runners have their skill set down, and always work to keep improving. Young runners think their skill set is fixed and think trying to run hard is all they need to do.
Uh Huh wrote:
And what does "treachery" mean in the context of world-class sprinting?
coach d wrote:"Old age and treachery beats youth and skill"
I truly hope Kim Collins isn't taking PEDs. He is one of my great hopes in the 100m: he competes frequently and has over the years recorded a very consistent set of times/performances.. Not proof of innocence, of course, but I found it reassuring that you always knew what you would get from KC.
mechano growth factor wrote:
habs wrote:This has been mentioned in at least 2 other threads but I think it deserves a thread of its own now.
Kim Collins, at 40 years old now, has now become the first ever masters athlete ever to break 10.00 in the 100m, running 9.93 in +1.9 m/s wind in Bottrop, Germany yesterday. The mark is a lifetime PB for him (previous 9.96) and puts him at #2 on the world list.
Results:
http://live.seltec-sports.de/2016/bottrop/r104000001.htmGood god would someone target test this clown already??
this is just ridiculous. Anybody who believes this guy is legit needs to go away. peptide abuser without question
Finally some real talk on the forum. No way Collins is clean. But the testing won't catch anyone other than athletes from countries that are politically not in favor (Russia being an example).
Chrome autofill settings wrote:
coach d wrote:There are enough people like Hal Higdon, for whom Dr. David Costle measured VO2max to essentially not change from age 36-50, that I have my doubts that age is the primary factor. Other things like consistency, willingness to train hard, injury avoidance and recovery, access to facilities, and staying up-do-date in terms of training theory and physiology are perhaps more important. We have more and more people learning to take better care of their bodies and extend their careers. It's not like 9.93 just came out of nowhere. I just don't think a lot of older athletes work as hard as they did when they were younger.
"Old age and treachery beats youth and skill"
I'm usually the first guy to give a similar argument about athletes and aging but there is no doubt that there is a drop off even if it is slight by the time your 40. And we are talking about a guy who has been world class for a long time running the best time of his life at 40 years old. By that logic and the idea that V02 max doesnt drop till 50 years old, Lagat could go out and break the WR 1500.
If he is clean, more power to him. And here is the thing. If your clean and people are making making claims that your on PED's, that is the ultimate compliment in my book.
Are you over 40? You seem to have lost your ability to distinguish between your and you're.
Or maybe you need to set a grammar PR.
age graded grammar wrote:
Chrome autofill settings wrote:I'm usually the first guy to give a similar argument about athletes and aging but there is no doubt that there is a drop off even if it is slight by the time your 40. And we are talking about a guy who has been world class for a long time running the best time of his life at 40 years old. By that logic and the idea that V02 max doesnt drop till 50 years old, Lagat could go out and break the WR 1500.
If he is clean, more power to him. And here is the thing. If your clean and people are making making claims that your on PED's, that is the ultimate compliment in my book.
Are you over 40? You seem to have lost your ability to distinguish between your and you're.
Or maybe you need to set a grammar PR.
I'm 38. But thanks for that. The world needs more people like you.
age graded grammar wrote:
Are you over 40? You seem to have lost your ability to distinguish between your and you're.
Or maybe you need to set a grammar PR.
Are you new here? Are you 12? Likely both.
mechano growth factor wrote:
habs wrote:This has been mentioned in at least 2 other threads but I think it deserves a thread of its own now.
Kim Collins, at 40 years old now, has now become the first ever masters athlete ever to break 10.00 in the 100m, running 9.93 in +1.9 m/s wind in Bottrop, Germany yesterday. The mark is a lifetime PB for him (previous 9.96) and puts him at #2 on the world list.
Results:
http://live.seltec-sports.de/2016/bottrop/r104000001.htmGood god would someone target test this clown already??
this is just ridiculous. Anybody who believes this guy is legit needs to go away. peptide abuser without question
MGF! Very good. He's too well liked and never going to beat the top dogs so nothing to gain in popping him. Great advert for the sport just like bolt. Who gains from him testing + ? Nobody therefore he never (again) will
You'd better like large numbers
Unfortunately if your clean and 40 years old that number is higher than 9.93.
Calling BS on that. You don't know what you're talking about. He has avoided serious injury, taken good care of himself health wise and has trained year after year continuously. When you do those things breaking 10.0 at 40 is entirely possible.
Yeah, his powerful physique must mean he is on something. If he is using, what is it? (ADuck about to show up now).
Are you over 40? You seem to have lost your ability to distinguish between your and you're.
Or maybe you need to set a grammar PR.
He must have an Ivy league education. Should apply for a job here at Letsrun.com, he will have a lot in common with the proprietors.
... peptide abuser without question
You and ADuck talking about "peptides". Do say, good sir, please enlighten us with your knowledge of the subject. You certainly pose as someone with knowledge. Tell us what those peptides actually do.
Chrome autofill settings wrote:
coach d wrote:Age is just a number.
Unfortunately if your clean and 40 years old that number is higher than 9.93.
If my clean 'and 40 years old that number is higher than 9.93' is what?