Coach Protested Athlete's Drug Test, according to Sheila Reid tweet

By publicly making such a vile accusation, with or without naming the "culprit", she publicly taints her sponsor's premier meet. Her sponsor must be run by a bunch of stupid cucks, to allow such antics.

Can't any of you even imagine what it must be like to be a clean athlete in this day & age??? If I'm Sheila (and I'm clean), damn right I'm mad as f*k! Look how pissed all you infantile posters get at each other over nothing, and she can't be frustrated by what she sees at another attempt to steal her livelihood?

How certain are you she is clean? One of the best tactics of dopers is to publicly denounce doping and accuse others of doping.

But she didn't actually report anything.

Because she doesn't know anything.

She is amplifying a game of telephone.

Why do I have to keep explaining it to this moron?

And therein lies the problem. A professional doesn't "amplify a game of telephone" at her sponsor's most important meet. Tell it to the people in charge, tell it to USADA, and let them deal with it. She must realize her running career is ending soon - maybe her tweet is part of an attempt to get a job with one of the anti-doping agencies.

What was reported? wrote:

Then a later post says she reported it to USADA - what was there to report if she knew nothing? Seems like reports like this detract from the end objective.

If you have no facts what would you expect the USADA to do.

You should at a minimum know what race was in question.

IMO, another second rate runner looking for attention and vindication for finishing near the bottom of a race.

At least she can see her name on LR.

She probably reported it to the USDA.

Nike always gets the dumb ones.

She must be related to Harry Reid.

She should be free to report what she knows or does not know. My sense is that, if you want to go public, be prepared to say everything you know so that everyone can make a judgment about the situation. Reid seems to have stated all that she knows about an important subject. It could amount to nothing. If so, move on.

this differs from statements where the person says he or she knows something but then does not share any details to evaluate. For an example, look at Kara Goucher's statement after the trials. She stated that she knew more about cheating by AlSal (and implicitly Rupp) but, for some unsubstantiated reason, she did not provide details. It's hard for her to say she can't share public details after having previously done so in an interview on the same subject with BBC. Many of us are interested to know more details but that exchange did not advance the public conversation at all.

John Miller, DT publicist wrote:

She should be free to report what she knows or does not know. My sense is that, if you want to go public, be prepared to say everything you know so that everyone can make a judgment about the situation. Reid seems to have stated all that she knows about an important subject. It could amount to nothing. If so, move on.

Actually, no.

She said that "apparently" a coach was protesting an athlete being tested.

She didn't say WTF "apparently" mean here, a word that young people today have a lot of trouble using correctly. "Apparently" as in she watched it happen? Or "apparently" as in she heard that someone heard that someone heard it happened? This matters. Probably the latter.

She also didn't explain what "protesting" meant in her accusation. Filing a formal protest, which would be the right use of the word at a track meet? Probably not. "Protesting" in saying 'what the heck, buddy, he was tested just on Tuesday'? Much more likely. But of course if that was Sheila's coach talking (small white woman) it would be a fair comment, but if it was Asbel's coach (African man!) it would be considered very, very bad.

So no, she didn't provide information appropriate to her accusation. She failed to even make a clear grammatical statement.

You make an excellent point. No one should ever say or write anything unless they say and write everything. I mean everything. Qualify every statement, add every detail. Nothing less will be accepted.

Man, I love how the fear of women trumps the hatred of dopers - resulting in such crazy "logic". Amazing.

Actually moron there is. wrote:

Shush hashes wrote:

If there was a current issue with cheating at piano competitions

Actually moron there is, ever heard of beta blockers.

I am not sure you read very well. I was simply using this as an example. My use of "if"was not suggesting there is not an issue (there may or may not be), it was just to set up the example.

You lose points for getting so easily distracted. Better step up your game, or you are never going to make up the 73 points you are behind on this thread.

so much blah blah wrote:

Shush hashes wrote:

If there was a current issue with cheating at piano competitions and if part of the issue had to do with a culture of denial and pretending there was no issue, then it would be totally helpful for you to post such a thing. Especial because you also would report as much as you know to the proper authority.

Man this is simple stuff. Why do I have to keep explaining it to you morons?

But she didn't actually report anything.

Because she doesn't know anything.

She is amplifying a game of telephone.

Why do I have to keep explaining it to this moron?

I guess all the stupidity on this thread is contagious because I have no idea what you are talking about.

She say a person (whose name she did not know), protesting a drug test. She can describe the person, she just does not know the person's name. She tells USADA about the incident as it seems odd that a coach or agent would have a problem with normal doping protocol.

USADA can do what they want with the information - but this is how Lance was caught, enough people talked and a picture of his doping resulted.

But hey, if you want doping to continue, be sure to keep up your babbling.

Only morons keep explaining. wrote:

Shush hashes wrote:

Man this is simple stuff. Why do I have to keep explaining it to you morons?

Only morons keep explaining to people they know are morons.

PS moron, you don't "have to", thought I'd explain that to you as you don't seem too bright.

Yes, I agree. It is my own failing that I argue with morons. I can't blame anyone else for that.

She taints her sponsor wrote:

By publicly making such a vile accusation, with or without naming the "culprit", she publicly taints her sponsor's premier meet. Her sponsor must be run by a bunch of stupid cucks, to allow such antics.

Yes, excellent point. You know what else would taint the meet: a positive drug bust. So by your logic, we better do no drug testing because it will hurt sponsors.

Another doping supporter. No wonder you hate Reid, you like doping and she doesn't.

Anybody think that maybe this coach was trying to GET his/her athlete tested? Maybe a lower place athlete who was not originally pulled for testing but maybe had set a national record that needs to be drug tested to be approved. The coach was trying to convince the drug testers that this athlete NEEDED to get tested

Hmm never thought of that did ya

letshearnames wrote:

Does anyone know who Sheila Reid's tweet was about?

"A coach here is "protesting" his athlete's drug test. Waiting to hear his argument."

https://twitter.com/shewolfruns/status/736673160439857155

Did Ms. Reid ever mention what argument she "heard"? What does "protest" mean. Was the coach arguing against taking the test at all, proctored properly. Was the athlete being rushed? Did he/she need liquids to provide sample?

We got bupkis from the Canuck.

Man this is simple stuff. Why do I have to keep explaining it to you morons?[/quote]

But she didn't actually report anything.

Because she doesn't know anything.

She is amplifying a game of telephone.

Why do I have to keep explaining it to this moron?[/quote]

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Oh, the irony! From what I understand, Sheila Reid apparently observed a coach arguing against drug testing one of his athletes. Reid, didn't know the details, including who the athlete was or what race he was in. She tweeted this incomplete information on a social media platform, and that social media platform limits the length of a message. Sheila Reid has a vested interest in clean sport (assuming she's clean). Also, Reid has a vested interest in generating publicity for herself (and is probably required to be active on social media).

A Letsrun poster reads about it on the message board, then accuses those who support Reid's tweet as being "morons" on the grounds that she was "amplifying a game of telephone."

Two points:

1. There is a difference between observing a situation without being privy to all of the details and repeating hearsay.

2. And this is the really important point: you, in posting on this message board are amplifying a game of telephone. YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY THE THING THAT YOU ARE ACCUSING REID OF DOING.

How clean is Ms. Clean? wrote:

Can't any of you even imagine what it must be like to be a clean athlete in this day & age??? If I'm Sheila (and I'm clean), damn right I'm mad as f*k! Look how pissed all you infantile posters get at each other over nothing, and she can't be frustrated by what she sees at another attempt to steal her livelihood?

How certain are you she is clean? One of the best tactics of dopers is to publicly denounce doping and accuse others of doping.

How certain am I? Not certain at all, as noted in my post. Did you read it?

Not a fan wrote:

Yeah, this is going to come back to bite her.

Let me start by saying I have been gone all weekend to my college reuniong. I've only read some this thread and it disgusts me. Would you rather have the tweet without a name or no tweet at all? Id' rather have the tweet.

Very sexist replies. Here is the post of the thread.

agdfgdfgdgd wrote:

The Letsrun dilemma: Drug cheat vs. woman

So many men can't deal with powerful women.

Shush hashes wrote:

If there was a current issue with cheating at piano competitions and if part of the issue had to do with a culture of denial and pretending there was no issue, then it would be totally helpful for you to post such a thing. Especial because you also would report as much as you know to the proper authority.

Yes, you should report it to the Piano Police.

Off with their fingers.