Dafne Schippers 22.25 ( -0.2)WL #1 in the World women's 200m

...with the best sprint coach in the world.

You got that part wrong. Otherwise, it all sounds plausible.

Oh, and USC was a sprint powerhouse long before the current coach arrived. So you should have said "returned USC to its former stature as a sprint powerhouse."

You're welcome!

If you watch the 100-200 women come out to run, you will see the most beautiful women in the world. Usually the USA girls are the best of the lot.

Dafne Schippers is pretty but the racism on here is obvious.

No wonder Idiot Trump has chance for the Presidency.

In a poll of 20,000 people, 76% said that religion does not make the world a better place! Because of a few fools twittering the world is going to hell in a hand basket. Our only hope for the USA is that the plan of Cruz and Kasich works.

There is still hope.

Uncle doesn't know wrote:

...with the best sprint coach in the world.

You got that part wrong. Otherwise, it all sounds plausible.

Oh, and USC was a sprint powerhouse long before the current coach arrived. So you should have said "returned USC to its former stature as a sprint powerhouse."

You're welcome!

Who is then?

Also, look at USC for the 10 years before Caryl and then tell me she hasn't made as big an impact than any coach in the last decade.

Just the product of good training...All right

Wind aided times are invalid. BTW, those kind of times are ran every year by junior aged girl, even in Europe, yet we don't see these girls coming back the next year dropping 0.6 secs on their PB.

How is the best sprint coach in the world not capable to producing one single decent male flat sprinter ? How many Oregon guys are capable of running sub

In the history of this sport, when success happens only in the female side, it often point to one thing...

11.58 to 10.99, but really 7.12 predicts sub 11.

Elly Van Langen won gold in 1992 in the 800m in 1:55.5, ahead of a huge crowd of dopers. She already had the fastest time in the world, but to explain how she won, before speculating about whether she doped, you can look first at the fact that the field went out ridiculously fast. I am not sure of the 200m split was really 26.xx, which it seemed to be, but the 400m split was 55.73 (=on pace for a two second world record, or even a world record with a slowdown of a full second on the second lap). Van Langen held back a bit and drafted in a crowd and probably ran a second lap in about 59.xx, winning only because she wasn't toasted by that first 200/400m.

1st off, wind aided times DO matter. They show the potential of an athlete and show that she was faster than 11.58 as a junior and a senior but didn't get the right conditions to run faster. Her senior year she was injured for part of it and ran like 8 races in the two days of her state meet. She didn't reach her full potential.

2nd, it wasn't in one year it was TWO. She didn't compete at Oklahoma last spring, but based off her 7.28 60m indoors she would have ran faster than 11.58! Prolly between 11.2-3.

3) Then she moves back to training similar, but BETTER than, her HS training and with a ton of other girls on the team to compete with. She was the only good sprinter at Oklahoma.

4) Her technique is tremendous and improved a ton since HS

All of these things make her improvement completely understandable.

Your other point about guys makes no sense whatsoever. Oregon spends their money on the guys side on distance runners and field athletes. The few athletes that they do recruit and give money to as sprinters have improved drastically and been pretty incredible. Just to name a few...

1) Devon Allen.... I don't even need to say anything about him. .

2) Marcus Chambers got 2nd in the NCAA's last year as a SOPH and ran 45.21

3) Arthur Delaney ran 20.52 and placed 7th in the NCAA in 2014

4) Jonathan Cabral got SECOND in NCAA in the 110h in the absence of Devon Allen last year.

And I am not sure, but would warrant a guess that both Delaney and Cabral were not scholarship guys, and def not full scholarship guys. That's just a few and more than enough to show you are just ranting with know info.

For the record, Cunliffe's wind adjusted times from her senior HS year were 11.66 (11.96, -3.1) and 11.55 (11.40, 2.4)

She ran 12.05 (0.1, so sub-12 with any decent assistance) age 15

Oregon has 10 times at the very least better sprint coach then U$C does. I mean look U$C seems to only recruit sprinters and even faster ones then Oregon gets but yet Oregon has way way faster sprinters on the Women's side then U$C does. U$c recruits seem to get slower or run the same times as high school once at U$C Oregon on the other hand lol damn look at how much faster sprinters like Gardner,Prandini,Cunliffie,Stevens,Todd Washington,ETC get once at Oregon. Now Oregon doesn't land hardly any male sprinters to make them faster but on the Women's side Oregon develops it's sprinters and U$C well does not.

Oregon's had some other male sprinters recently. Mike Berry ran a school record 44.91 just a few years ago.

they call me flopro wrote:

Oregon has 10 times at the very least better sprint coach then U$C does. I mean look U$C seems to only recruit sprinters and even faster ones then Oregon gets but yet Oregon has way way faster sprinters on the Women's side then U$C does. U$c recruits seem to get slower or run the same times as high school once at U$C Oregon on the other hand lol damn look at how much faster sprinters like Gardner,Prandini,Cunliffie,Stevens,Todd Washington,ETC get once at Oregon. Now Oregon doesn't land hardly any male sprinters to make them faster but on the Women's side Oregon develops it's sprinters and U$C well does not.

Agree that Oregon's coach is better BUT USC's girls have improved tremendously and Caryl is a great coach. Show us some data to back up your statement...

Leroy Jones wrote:

If you watch the 100-200 women come out to run, you will see the most beautiful women in the world. Usually the USA girls are the best of the lot.

Dafne Schippers is pretty but the racism on here is obvious.

No wonder Idiot Trump has chance for the Presidency.

In a poll of 20,000 people, 76% said that religion does not make the world a better place! Because of a few fools twittering the world is going to hell in a hand basket. Our only hope for the USA is that the plan of Cruz and Kasich works.

There is still hope.

Leroy, is that you? Get a job yet?

ventolin^3 wrote:

sprinthard wrote:The great sprint coach Pierre-Jean Vazel...

i don't know about that albeit he coached fasuba to 9.85 a decade ago but i don't know who he's coached since of note

i know him from other boards when he was just a youngster, still only mid-30s now & self-taught coach who does lot of research for which he has to be commended

his failing is that he doesn't really have any clue about hard science ( Canova is a more "scientific coach" ) & probably more into "technical" matters such as posture, cadence, drive-phases, etc

the question is whether coaching a guy to 9.85 ( when 9.85 meant something ) when only in mid-late-20s as a coach makes you a great coach or not

considering fasuba was a highly doubtful character ( his 60m split in that 9.85 was something like a totally outrageous 6.35s !!! ), i'm not sure that the appellation is yet apt...

Fasuba's 9.85 was with a faulty wind gauge. It was widely reported that the winds were as high as 3 m/s. All the runners set a massive PB on that day and almost none ever ccame close to running that fast again. I believe Fasuba never ran sub 10 again after that. In fact the fastest he ran was 10.09 at altitude

jjjjj wrote:Elly Van Langen won gold in 1992 in the 800m in 1:55.5, ahead of a huge crowd of dopers. She already had the fastest time in the world, but to explain how she won, before speculating about whether she doped, you can look first at the fact that the field went out ridiculously fast. I am not sure of the 200m split was really 26.xx, which it seemed to be, but the 400m split was 55.73 (=on pace for a two second world record, or even a world record with a slowdown of a full second on the second lap). Van Langen held back a bit and drafted in a crowd and probably ran a second lap in about 59.xx, winning only because she wasn't toasted by that first 200/400m.

no

all the drafting in the world doesn't explain a 1'55-mid !!!

it doesn't matter that others went off too fast, the dutch still ran 1'55+ which she had never looked of capable of ever before '92 & after i had seen her race on tv a few times

i'd seen enough of her before to gauge her as a likely career best 1'57+ gal before '92

never in this universe was she a 1'55 gal

God I hate it when I agree with vent

RankingWomen wrote:

She has a nice big butt.

Agree

I'll have to take your word for it because for some reason I have never heard of this athlete called "Elly van Langen" before somebody mentioned her in this thread.

they call me flopro wrote:

Oregon has 10 times at the very least better sprint coach then U$C does. I mean look U$C seems to only recruit sprinters and even faster ones then Oregon gets but yet Oregon has way way faster sprinters on the Women's side then U$C does. U$c recruits seem to get slower or run the same times as high school once at U$C Oregon on the other hand lol damn look at how much faster sprinters like Gardner,Prandini,Cunliffie,Stevens,Todd Washington,ETC get once at Oregon. Now Oregon doesn't land hardly any male sprinters to make them faster but on the Women's side Oregon develops it's sprinters and U$C well does not.

They call me flopro... Inform yourself!

Fasuba's 9.85 was with a faulty wind gauge.

Is time might be odd, but there is absolutely no proof of that

It was widely reported that the winds were as high as 3 m/s.

No report ever indicated that. The official wind was 1.7 m/s

All the runners set a massive PB on that day and almost none ever ccame close to running that fast again.

That is simply untrue, only Gatlin and him set a PB. The others were all well above 10s and far from their PB.

In fact the fastest he ran was 10.09 at altitude

"In fact", even though I don't know his 2nd best, I am pretty sure he ran faster than in Wch Osaka 2007 100m final.

As far as I know, Osaka is not in altitude.

Does checker ever check his facts ?