“Whatever else comes along in 2016, nothing is going to beat Cram’s doe-eyed, sycophantic, self-serving, anodyne, unoriginal, unchallenging, buddy-buddy, head-nodding, nausea-inducing, dolly-drop apology for journalism that was his interview with the new IAAF president.â€
Binks wrote:
“Whatever else comes along in 2016, nothing is going to beat Cram’s doe-eyed, sycophantic, self-serving, anodyne, unoriginal, unchallenging, buddy-buddy, head-nodding, nausea-inducing, dolly-drop apology for journalism that was his interview with the new IAAF president.â€
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-3520652/Steve-Cram-wins-gold-medal-self-serving-nauseating-sycophancy.html
There, there...
Happy now after your super hyphenated post?
Yep. Basically.
I'm sick and tired of hearing things from uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics. Ive had enough of reading things by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians. No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me with just a pocketful of hope. Money for dope. I'm sick to death of seeing things from tight-lipped, condescending, mamas little chauvinists I've had enough of watching scenes of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas. With just a pocketful of soap, Nike's money for dope. Money for NOP All I want is the truth now. Just gimme some truth now. Just gimme some truth. All I want is the truth. Just gimme some truth
malmo wrote:
I'm sick and tired of hearing things from uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics. Ive had enough of reading things by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians. No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me with just a pocketful of hope. Money for dope. I'm sick to death of seeing things from tight-lipped, condescending, mamas little chauvinists I've had enough of watching scenes of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas. With just a pocketful of soap, Nike's money for dope. Money for NOP All I want is the truth now. Just gimme some truth now. Just gimme some truth. All I want is the truth. Just gimme some truth
So much hyphenation! Even unnecessary one!
This type of journalism is the reason Coe gave the press box the finger in LA,
I don't get why so many people hate Coe. In the months since he came to charge, more has been done to get rid of doping and corruptness within the sport than has been achieved in over a decade. Of course there is still a long way to go, but atleast now something is being done.
Runs 800 wrote:
I don't get why so many people hate Coe. In the months since he came to charge, more has been done to get rid of doping and corruptness within the sport than has been achieved in over a decade. Of course there is still a long way to go, but atleast now something is being done.
More was done in spite of Coe trying to stonewall the process.That's why people don't like Coe: in the face of clear corruption and issues with doping, he put on his politician face to say "nothing going on here."
He makes statements that sound like honest appraisals, where he talks about "the doping issue" but when pressed about specific actions, or specific issues, he backs away an instead talks about how his sport is the toughest sprt on doping, all to pretend he and his organization is serious about the issue.
Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships.
Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?
Yeah, caught the last 15 mins of that the other night.
All very cosy, no awkward questions.
I guess Athletics has served them well, presumably it has made them multimillionaires, otherwise I don't see how they can afford to live the perma-tan life in Monaco.
malmo wrote:
I'm sick and tired of hearing things from uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics. Ive had enough of reading things by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians. No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me with just a pocketful of hope. Money for dope. I'm sick to death of seeing things from tight-lipped, condescending, mamas little chauvinists I've had enough of watching scenes of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas. With just a pocketful of soap, Nike's money for dope. Money for NOP All I want is the truth now. Just gimme some truth now. Just gimme some truth. All I want is the truth. Just gimme some truth
"Gimme Some Truth" - John Lennon, 1971. Tremendous song.
Clerk wrote:
Runs 800 wrote:I don't get why so many people hate Coe. In the months since he came to charge, more has been done to get rid of doping and corruptness within the sport than has been achieved in over a decade. Of course there is still a long way to go, but atleast now something is being done.
More was done in spite of Coe trying to stonewall the process.That's why people don't like Coe: in the face of clear corruption and issues with doping, he put on his politician face to say "nothing going on here."
He makes statements that sound like honest appraisals, where he talks about "the doping issue" but when pressed about specific actions, or specific issues, he backs away an instead talks about how his sport is the toughest sprt on doping, all to pretend he and his organization is serious about the issue.
Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships.
Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?
True words. Coe also did nothing to help the IAAF with doping in all the years he was a VP with them before he became president. If it wasn't for work done by journalists and WADA Coe and the rest of the IAAF would still be ignoring the doping issue in the sport. It's stunning to me that a former athlete could take such a weak stance against doping had they competed clean....
fingering the box wrote:
This type of journalism is the reason Coe gave the press box the finger in LA,
What do you mean? Was Coe accused of doping before LA 84?
"Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships. Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?"
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You're talking out your A$$ fool! people are getting busted left and right now. Coe is under huge pressure to hold the center. He can't go in there with a machete and start taking people out - it's got to be done systematically with a power base behind you. Imagine for a moment if it were known today that Usain Bolt had 'doped' in the past. The fact alone would set into motion a whole host of nasty lawsuits and financial arrangement crises with people getting fired all over the place - meets cancelled - sponsorship deals crashing, etc... Give this guy a break - He passionately loves the sport and isn't going to simply bulldoze his authority over 'due process'. He and Cram have been close friends for years and know and have experienced more in the world of Athletics, than either of us can ever imagine. If Armstrong can fall, so can others!
Nothing? wrote:
"Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships. Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?"
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You're talking out your A$$ fool! people are getting busted left and right now. Coe is under huge pressure to hold the center. He can't go in there with a machete and start taking people out - it's got to be done systematically with a power base behind you. Imagine for a moment if it were known today that Usain Bolt had 'doped' in the past. The fact alone would set into motion a whole host of nasty lawsuits and financial arrangement crises with people getting fired all over the place - meets cancelled - sponsorship deals crashing, etc... Give this guy a break - He passionately loves the sport and isn't going to simply bulldoze his authority over 'due process'. He and Cram have been close friends for years and know and have experienced more in the world of Athletics, than either of us can ever imagine. If Armstrong can fall, so can others!
This sounds like it could be possible but is there any evidence you can point to that would make me believe it?
LRC doesn't need evidence.
Nothing? wrote:
"Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships. Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?"
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You're talking out your A$$ fool! people are getting busted left and right now. Coe is under huge pressure to hold the center. He can't go in there with a machete and start taking people out - it's got to be done systematically with a power base behind you. Imagine for a moment if it were known today that Usain Bolt had 'doped' in the past. The fact alone would set into motion a whole host of nasty lawsuits and financial arrangement crises with people getting fired all over the place - meets cancelled - sponsorship deals crashing, etc... Give this guy a break - He passionately loves the sport and isn't going to simply bulldoze his authority over 'due process'. He and Cram have been close friends for years and know and have experienced more in the world of Athletics, than either of us can ever imagine. If Armstrong can fall, so can others!
Indeed. Totally agree. Most on here haven't got a clue about the situation and how best to deal with it. They just jump on the bandwagon without knowing half of what is going on.
Coe pledged to do lots in tackling the drug problem as part of his election manifesto. He'd only just become president when all this kicked off. He can't just change things in such a short space of time. It's going to take years for the full impact to be felt. Those who expect changes now are not living in the real world.
He's already doubled the number of elites eligible for testing in each event. He can't expand that until he gets more sponsorship, which is hard to get at the moment.
He's banned the Russians and put several other nations under close scrutiny with deadlines to meet. If they don't then further bans will come into play.
He tried several years ago to enforce 4 year bans for drug users, but this was overruled by strict EU laws. Does anyone on here know how many lawsuits and millions the IAAF has lost in court cases trying to get athletes banned ? That isn't his fault. He has to work within the framework he's given and find other ways to police the sport if external forces are against changes.
The Daily Mail isn't exactly impartial. They have a financial stake in the main competition of the BBC. They have stories almost everyday criticising BBC programmes and operations.
Granted Cram could have challenged Coe more, but he is not an investigative journalist - he is a former athlete and a commentator. It wasn't billed or scheduled as an in depth investigation into the IAAF which would satisfy hardcore athletics fans like most here are. It was an informative piece on the UK's most watched TV channel on a Saturday afternoon.
I feel more confident that the (many) problems are being dealt with/will be resolved having watched the programme.
Pacifico wrote:
Nothing? wrote:"Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships. Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?"
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You're talking out your A$$ fool! people are getting busted left and right now. Coe is under huge pressure to hold the center. He can't go in there with a machete and start taking people out - it's got to be done systematically with a power base behind you. Imagine for a moment if it were known today that Usain Bolt had 'doped' in the past. The fact alone would set into motion a whole host of nasty lawsuits and financial arrangement crises with people getting fired all over the place - meets cancelled - sponsorship deals crashing, etc... Give this guy a break - He passionately loves the sport and isn't going to simply bulldoze his authority over 'due process'. He and Cram have been close friends for years and know and have experienced more in the world of Athletics, than either of us can ever imagine. If Armstrong can fall, so can others!
Indeed. Totally agree. Most on here haven't got a clue about the situation and how best to deal with it. They just jump on the bandwagon without knowing half of what is going on.
Coe pledged to do lots in tackling the drug problem as part of his election manifesto. He'd only just become president when all this kicked off. He can't just change things in such a short space of time. It's going to take years for the full impact to be felt. Those who expect changes now are not living in the real world.
He's already doubled the number of elites eligible for testing in each event. He can't expand that until he gets more sponsorship, which is hard to get at the moment.
He's banned the Russians and put several other nations under close scrutiny with deadlines to meet. If they don't then further bans will come into play.
He tried several years ago to enforce 4 year bans for drug users, but this was overruled by strict EU laws. Does anyone on here know how many lawsuits and millions the IAAF has lost in court cases trying to get athletes banned ? That isn't his fault. He has to work within the framework he's given and find other ways to police the sport if external forces are against changes.
I'm sympathetic too Coe's plight in that he hasn't been on the job long and in the VP role he probably didn't have much actual power so the shit storm swirling around him is not of his own making.That said, his public statements worry me. When a table of suspicious blood values were leaked, he attacked that scientists that called them disturbing. His first instinct was to poo-poo the ARD documentary. These don't seem like the responses of someone who is looking to use the presidency to clean up the sport.
[quote]Binks wrote:
“Whatever else comes along in 2016, nothing is going to beat Cram’s doe-eyed, sycophantic, self-serving, anodyne, unoriginal, unchallenging, buddy-buddy, head-nodding, nausea-inducing, dolly-drop apology for journalism that was his interview with the new IAAF president.â€
This clown needs to learn that less is more when it comes to using ad hominems to attack someone.
"...doe-eyed, sycophantic, self-serving, anodyne, unoriginal, unchallenging, buddy-buddy, head-nodding, nausea-inducing, dolly-drop apology."
Ugh!
- Helped develop a robust ABP- Most ABP sanctions by far of any sport- Creation of an independent Ethics Commision- 3 lifetime bans, and a 5 year ban, for the officials involved in the briberies, resulting from an ethics investigation in progress before the ARD documentary aired, and before the French investigations- changes in their rules to allow more ethics investigations (eg Lamine Diacke), without requiring an initial complaint
Clerk wrote:
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Nothing is being done. Certainly not by the IAAF. Only after the French criminal investigation were the IAAF forced to do anything. IAAF is taking no action on the bribery for championships.
Seriously, what have the IAAF done, out of their own initiative, to clean up the sport since accepting the ABP?