alanson wrote:
even if legal inside the US or inside Russia.
As far as I know it's not that it's available in any pharmacy store in Russia. Also the Russian Ministry of Health has included Mildronats (meldonium) in the list of the countries most important drugs that must be available at all times to the citizens.
Originally it was intended for military use to save lives of soldiers in overload/overstress state.
mildronator wrote:
alanson wrote:even if legal inside the US or inside Russia.
As far as I know it's not that it's available in any pharmacy store in Russia. Also the Russian Ministry of Health has included Mildronats (meldonium) in the list of the countries most important drugs that must be available at all times to the citizens.
Originally it was intended for military use to save lives of soldiers in overload/overstress state.
Correction -- As far as I know IT IS AVAILABLE in any pharmacy store in Russia
IDK it was a legal drug until two months ago and her family doctor prescribed it. When I look at her, she doesn't look strong so obviously there was no advantage. She didn't harm anyone, so in the end, it was a level playing field, as it still is.
Plus, she is clearly one of the best, and it didn't seem to affect her.
Move on, there are more important issues, e.g. if it is true what they say about the Oregon Nike Project (ONP), then why are these guys still so SCRAWNY/SKINNY. I talked to a girl the other day who is into big bodybuilding guys (she likes biceps the most I guess) and she says she could never be with a runner, doesn't consider them "real men".
Actually I think now with banning Mildronats (meldonium) and with all this publicity the WADA has done more harm than good to the sports overall. Now all the amateurs around the world who are not elite level and who will never be tested for doping will stockpile this drug. I have already heard that the Mildronats price in the Russia has gone up and that orders are coming mostly from USA and UK.
"Amphetamines are similar in that they speed recovery..."
Could you elaborate on that?
kanny wrote:
You have to do a search for the more popular name, mildronate.
[quote]OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
I've been in the process of a literature search (scientific, not in the lay press) on this drug, have not really found much.
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I did, went into a number of medical databases.
Well, I guarantee you it will be a popular drug now. It's even got the nickname, "Poor man's EPO."
One very quick Google search and it is available through the mail in the U.S.
XFIT BRO THE REAL ONE 1 wrote:
IDK it was a legal drug until two months ago and her family doctor prescribed it. When I look at her, she doesn't look strong so obviously there was no advantage. She didn't harm anyone, so in the end, it was a level playing field, as it still is.
Plus, she is clearly one of the best, and it didn't seem to affect her.
Move on, there are more important issues, e.g. if it is true what they say about the Oregon Nike Project (ONP), then why are these guys still so SCRAWNY/SKINNY. I talked to a girl the other day who is into big bodybuilding guys (she likes biceps the most I guess) and she says she could never be with a runner, doesn't consider them "real men".
Was "she" named "RuPaul?"
Captain Kango wrote:
YabbaYabba wrote:Curiouser and curiouser:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0WB1GK?utm_source=twitterBecause when you are a cute blonde, it is easier to get away with cheating, perhaps?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/brennan/2016/03/09/maria-sharapova-suspension-positive-drug-test-meldonium/81554818/
Like Rupp?
SlowFatMaster wrote:
"Amphetamines are similar in that they speed recovery..."
Could you elaborate on that?
Crack cocaine is even better.
It will be interesting to see if athletes from any of the cleanest nations get caught in this. It's probably a good tell for whether there is a doping culture in a place.
is there word? have any canadians. brits, aussies, american distance, japanese etc...been caught up in this?
The number of european and african athletes taking this "supplement" as it was used for years is far more than is known or busted as of the January 2016 ban list.
X-country skiing athletes as well as cycling athletes pop this like candy. Meldonium was seen as another supplement as a vitamin and replacement drink.It was not banned plain and simple. If you talked with athletes using it no one would say, yea I feel different or faster, stronger etc.Its just another supplement I hope gives me the little extra and not an advantage my competitors have because they take it.
Its now on everybody's radar list and will disappear. What we need to look at what else is being used that is borderline to being banned once its tested out.
Why cannot we get an pharmaceutical expert , doctor , trainer or informed athlete to say, these are supplements we are using or being offered up, lets look closer at them.
Wont happen, no one wants to give up the edge ...
One more time wrote:
The number of european and african athletes taking this "supplement" as it was used for years is far more than is known or busted as of the January 2016 ban list.
X-country skiing athletes as well as cycling athletes pop this like candy. Meldonium was seen as another supplement as a vitamin and replacement drink.It was not banned plain and simple. If you talked with athletes using it no one would say, yea I feel different or faster, stronger etc.Its just another supplement I hope gives me the little extra and not an advantage my competitors have because they take it.
Its now on everybody's radar list and will disappear. What we need to look at what else is being used that is borderline to being banned once its tested out.
Why cannot we get an pharmaceutical expert , doctor , trainer or informed athlete to say, these are supplements we are using or being offered up, lets look closer at them.
Wont happen, no one wants to give up the edge ...
That's cause there is no edge.
They just did a segment on this on a local Chicago Sports radio station. The guys talking about it had marginal knowledge about what Meldonium is, so they compared her to Lance Armstrong and made it seem to be on the same level as HGH and EPO.
Bottom line, is casual fan only hears "doping" and "dropped by Nike" and unfortunately for her, perception is reality.