The Indoor Marathon and Relay Is Here...April 8-10 at the Armory in NYC (Sponsored)

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8 years ago 03/04/2016 4:26pm EST

3/22 update: The Armory announced that they will give $1000 to the fastest male team, fastest female team, and fastest mixed gender marathon realy team.

More details here.

The prize money likely will go to 8 person teams but is open to all the teams racing.

The "marathon on a track" was quite popular at the turn of the 20th century with packed houses watching match marathons in Madison Square Garden.

(If you're a NY Times subscriber you have to read this article about the 1908 match race marathon in the Garden decided by less than half a lap with a near riot breaking out in the stands and everyone smoking

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03E4DA1739E333A25755C2A9679D946997D6CF

)

Recently marathons on the track have existed but at not very popular venues. It has mainly become a LetsRun.com meme.

That all changes the weekend of April 8-10 with the Armory NYC Indoor Marathon and marathon relay.

Individuals can race. There is prize money of $1000, $750, and $500 in the individual race with a $5000 bonus if the winner breaks the indoors world record of 2:27:21 for men and 2:53:53 for women.

And the more interesting angle for at least myself (or the slightly less crazy amongst us) are the marathon relays. You can have a team of 2, 4,

6 (update: we left out 6)

or 8 people. You can run any distance you want. The only catch is each runner can run a max of 3 times.

If you're looking for a different reason to go to New York City next month this is it.

All the info on the races including an FAQ and how to register is here:

http://www.armorytrack.com/gprofile.php?do=view_event&event_id=11923&mgroup_id=45586&year=2016

Essentially you sign up, pick the time slot you want to run, and pay your fee. Multiple indoor marathons will be run all weekend with 3-5 hour windows. And yes you can run on multiple teams if you want (as long as they are not during the same window).

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I wonder how fast the fastest 8 man team will go. Dennis Kimetto I bet goes faster. I'm also curious about the best way for 2, 4 and 8 man teams to pace this. The few the number of people on the team the more advantageous it might be to run longer the first time you run. If any of you have signed up and want to talk strategy let's hear it.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 4:37pm EST

re: wejo

One more thing the individual race is limited to 40 people and only costs $50

http://www.armorytrack.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45586&do=news&news_id=401302

The relay races are $100 per person.

Live streaming of everything.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 4:48pm EST

re: wejo

seat of the pants math

8 runners 3 carries

1760m per leg

4:25 is 4 minute mile pace.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 4:50pm EST

re: wejo

I may have to look into this next year. I am in 2:30 shape and it would be cool to make a run at a world record.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 5:00pm EST

re: swiming upstream is hard

swiming upstream is hard wrote:
seat of the pants math
8 runners 3 carries
1760m per leg
4:25 is 4 minute mile pace.

That's about an one hour and 5 minute marathon relay

Roughly nine 30 second laps in a row then 30 minutes rest repeat the 9 laps rest and repeat... tall order to gather 8 runners for that.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 5:09pm EST

re: AllPeds team

AllPeds team wrote:
swiming upstream is hard wrote:
seat of the pants math
8 runners 3 carries
1760m per leg
4:25 is 4 minute mile pace.
That's about an one hour and 5 minute marathon relay
Roughly nine 30 second laps in a row then 30 minutes rest repeat the 9 laps rest and repeat... tall order to gather 8 runners for that.

Math must be new to you.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 5:11pm EST

re: wejo

I can't think of anything more boring.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 5:12pm EST

re: AllPeds team

AllPeds team wrote:
swiming upstream is hard wrote:
seat of the pants math
8 runners 3 carries
1760m per leg
4:25 is 4 minute mile pace.
That's about an one hour and 5 minute marathon relay
Roughly nine 30 second laps in a row then 30 minutes rest repeat the 9 laps rest and repeat... tall order to gather 8 runners for that.

Do you have to run 1 mile segments? Seems like 12x400m with 8 min rest would be the way to go. Or 8x600m. If you can skip runners (4 guys do 4x4, then take a 15 min brake while the other guys run) it is probably even more doable.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 5:16pm EST

re: asdfads

Maybe someone will get lapped but come back to win

8 years ago 03/04/2016 5:18pm EST

re: asdfads

asdfads wrote:
AllPeds team wrote:
That's about an one hour and 5 minute marathon relay
Roughly nine 30 second laps in a row then 30 minutes rest repeat the 9 laps rest and repeat... tall order to gather 8 runners for that.
Do you have to run 1 mile segments? Seems like 12x400m with 8 min rest would be the way to go. Or 8x600m. If you can skip runners (4 guys do 4x4, then take a 15 min brake while the other guys run) it is probably even more doable.

Read the OP for your answer, learn the difference between "break" and "brake", then come back and post.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 6:00pm EST

re: wejo

Letsrun should sponsor a special cash bonus if the someone comes back from being lapped to win the race.

Maybe $250 bucks if someone does that, but have multipliers for being more than one lap down (i.e., coming back from two laps down to win is $500, three laps is $1000).

God I'm bored today at work.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 6:08pm EST

re: asdfads

asdfads wrote:
Do you have to run 1 mile segments? Seems like 12x400m with 8 min rest would be the way to go. Or 8x600m. If you can skip runners (4 guys do 4x4, then take a 15 min brake while the other guys run) it is probably even more doable.

The way I read the OP each member of your relay is limited to no more than three legs so the max number of legs is 24 if you have an 8 person team.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 6:15pm EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
Individuals can race. There is prize money of $1000, $750, and $500 in the individual race with a $5000 bonus if the winner breaks the indoors world record of 2:27:21 for men and 2:53:53 for women.
One more thing the individual race is limited to 40 people and only costs $50

SO let me understand this, I can get 40 friends together, we can pay $2000 to enter, and then we would win $1000+$750+$500 = $2250. So we make $250? What am I missing?

8 years ago 03/04/2016 9:05pm EST

re: LasseViren10K

LasseViren10K wrote:
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7083443#ixzz41z0ElF5Q
wejo wrote:
Individuals can race. There is prize money of $1000, $750, and $500 in the individual race with a $5000 bonus if the winner breaks the indoors world record of 2:27:21 for men and 2:53:53 for women.
One more thing the individual race is limited to 40 people and only costs $50
SO let me understand this, I can get 40 friends together, we can pay $2000 to enter, and then we would win $1000+$750+$500 = $2250. So we make $250? What am I missing?

You are missing that it's a multi day event, with multiple waves each day last 3-5 hours per wave, each with 40 runners. Potential for several hundred runners.

8 years ago 03/04/2016 9:11pm EST

re: LasseViren10K

LasseViren10K wrote:
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7083443#ixzz41z0ElF5Q
wejo wrote:
Individuals can race. There is prize money of $1000, $750, and $500 in the individual race with a $5000 bonus if the winner breaks the indoors world record of 2:27:21 for men and 2:53:53 for women.
One more thing the individual race is limited to 40 people and only costs $50
SO let me understand this, I can get 40 friends together, we can pay $2000 to enter, and then we would win $1000+$750+$500 = $2250. So we make $250? What am I missing?

Just went to site. There is only 1 heat for the "World Record Challenge" so you are in fact correct, $2000 of entry fees will pay out a guaranteed $2250. If putting in $50 to get $56 back out is the idea of worth it among your 40 friends for 2.5-4.0 hours of work, then it's all yours.

Also, it looks like it may be a seeded race, so acceptance is not guaranteed.

8 years ago 03/05/2016 11:11pm EST

re: bored finger lakes guy

bored finger lakes guy wrote:
Letsrun should sponsor a special cash bonus if the someone comes back from being lapped to win the race.
Maybe $250 bucks if someone does that, but have multipliers for being more than one lap down (i.e., coming back from two laps down to win is $500, three laps is $1000).
God I'm bored today at work.

Coming back from one lap down doesn't seem that hard. That's what 40 seconds down?

3 laps would be impressive.

8 years ago 03/08/2016 6:27pm EST

re: wejo

I can see people attempting to do this coming away from it with some serious injuries...with the banked track and all...

8 years ago 03/24/2016 1:21pm EDT

re: Rbyrne

Rbyrne wrote:
I can see people attempting to do this coming away from it with some serious injuries...with the banked track and all...

I updated the first post to note they are now giving $1000 to the fastest male, female, and co-ed teams.

As for your concern on injuries, I know for the full marathon they switch directions after some time period I think an hour. Banked track or non-banked track I think that is the biggest concern is just running in one direction the whole time.

For the relays most people aren't running that far at one time in the relays.

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