Unofficial NCAA prediction and discussion thread

800-1.Brazier 2. Kidder 3. Harris 4. Murphy

Mile-1. Wynne 2. Haney 3. Koech 4. Elliott

3000-1. Knight 2. Cheserek 3. McGorty 4. Yorks

5000-1. Cheserek 2. Zienasellassie 3. Curtin 4. Bennie

DMR-1. Penn St 2. Virginia 3. Oregon 4. Stanford

800 - 1. Murphy 2. Brazier

Mile - 1. Haney 2. Koech

3000 - 1. Tiernan 2. Cheserek

5000 - 1. Cheserek 2. Bennie

DMR - 1. Stanford 2. Oregon

Craig Lutz Fan wrote:

the 3k will be won by Patrick Tiernan, and the 5k will be the race of the meet.

Let's hear some of your predictions

I understand that you want to be optimistic, but I doubt ches will lose the 3K or 5K the way he's been running. I like his DMR chances too if he runs/is at least very close to the front to begin the 1600 leg.

Tiernan is an animal. So i think he'll win 3k, especially after the 5k which he'll win, but it's going to be super fast i believe. Lots of studs in that race. It'll be a fun race.

Not going to lie it was pretty interesting to play with this meet scorer and see how the meet might play out. Also fun to score the various conferences around the us as well.

http://cloudtrainingsystems.com/meetscorer

I don't want to give you my email- so what were the results

What the hell are you talking about?

asdsa wrote:

800-1.Brazier 2. Kidder 3. Harris 4. Murphy

Mile-1. Wynne 2. Haney 3. Koech 4. Elliott

3000-1. Knight 2. Cheserek 3. McGorty 4. Yorks

5000-1. Cheserek 2. Zienasellassie 3. Curtin 4. Bennie

DMR-1. Penn St 2. Virginia 3. Oregon 4. Stanford

I also agree with Wynne in the mile

But I have to say Ches in the 3000m

DMR - Oregon, OSU, Washington, PSU, Georgetown

800 - Brazier, Walker, Arroyo, Harris

Mile - Haney, Wynne, Burcham, Awad

3k - Ches, Knight/York, McGorty, Tiernan, Bile

5k - Ches, Curtin, Walling, Futsum, Bennie

Couple thoughts:

I think if the 3k goes out slow Ches could be in trouble, with guys like York, and Bile in the pack w 1:47/1:48 speed this may be a race that he doesn't want to come down to the last 400m. McGorty was impressive as hell in his mile duel with York, but I just don't see him having the 400m speed to win a kicker's race.

DMR - could be the race of the meet, so many great anchors... I'd guess the 12 will go out in a pack and the squad with the best 400 and 800 guys could end up the winner since I see more separation there than amongst all the talented anchor legs. IMO No anchor who gets the baton more than 3 seconds behind the leader will stand a chance with this many guys capable of 3:56 splits or faster.

Ches can run 1:47 for the 800. He'll have no trouble outkicking those chumps.

Duck Ellington wrote:

Ches can run 1:47 for the 800. He'll have no trouble outkicking those chumps.

Yea right. Bile would tear him up son

DMR - Oregon, Stanford, PSU

5000m - Ches, Futsum, Murphy

Mile - Awad, Haney, Koech

800m - Brazier, Murphy, Harris

3000m - Ches, McGorty, Knight

Best race is gonna be women's 5k. Molly Seidel vs Allie Ostrander. I wouldn't be surprised if the winning time is sub 15:10 and decided by a lean at the tape.

george oscar bluth wrote:

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Mile - Awad, Haney, Koech

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Awad? Unusual pick. Unless you are Awad.

Gvftftcyffyvffvy wrote:

george oscar bluth wrote:

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Mile - Awad, Haney, Koech

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Awad? Unusual pick. Unless you are Awad.

I second Awad for the win. If he is among the top 3 at the bell, I think he has the wheels to pull off the win.

Division 2 Dog wrote:

Duck Ellington wrote:

Ches can run 1:47 for the 800. He'll have no trouble outkicking those chumps.

Yea right. Bile would tear him up son

Just like last year

800: 1. Murphy.....2. Walker.....3. Brazier

This is a deep and interesting field. Capwell, Walker, Murphy and Kidder are the "old" ones who are attempting to stay relevant with the young guns of Brazier and Harris trying to claim their spot. I tend to favor experience here, thus my picks, but I could see any of 7 guys winning it: Murphy, Walker, Brazier, Arroyo, Rutto, Walker or Kidder.

1600: 1. Burcham....2. Prakel....3. Awad

This race is absolutely wide open. I like Awad here too, I just feel there is going to be some interesting stuff happen here. Prakel could be the silent killer. Haney could very well win.

3000: 1. Ches....2. Knight...3. Tiernan

Ches is too strong and too superior. It doesn't matter if this race goes out fast or slow, he's too far above the pack for the previous night to bother him much in my opinion. Not to mention the fact that Ches could also probably run 1:47 like some of these guys. Besides, his finishing 200-400 kick has a little bit to do with his gifted natural speed, but it has just as much or more to do with the fact that his strength allows him to conserve those reserves for when they are really needed. No one else has his strength.

5000: 1. Ches....2. Murphy.....3. Zienasellassie

Similar to above in regards to Ches. I like Murphy to perform a lot better than he did at outdoors this past June. I think he's a dark horse. I think Curtain will be in position for most of the way and then fall back with 600 or so to go and leave that spot open for Zienasellassie, who has the strength and the wheels to close well.

DMR: 1. Oregon....2. Penn State.....3. Ok. State

This is going to be a good way to get us distance people excited on Friday! I think these three teams have the strongest overall pieces with Stanford right there as well. As long as Ches is within 25 meters of the lead when he gets the handoff, it's ballgame.

Our men's 800 preview is now up: We've picked Brazier FTW.

http://www.letsrun.com/?p=104975

LRC Prediction: We like Brazier. He's got the two fastest times in the NCAA and looked incredibly strong and smooth while running them. He'll have his hands full at NCAAs but his talent will win out. If he doesn't win, we're going with Murphy.

In case you are wondering, Brazier and/or Harris company have a long way to go if they want to a) break the collegiate record or b) be considered the greatest freshman talent in NCAA history. Way back in 1988, current UTEP coach Paul Ereng was a freshman for UVA. He picked up the 800 (he was a 400 guy previously) and ended up winning the Olympic gold in 1:43.45 as a true frosh. The next year (1989), he broke the world indoor record and set the current collegiate record of 1:44.84 a time he ran to win World Indoors.

PS. The men's 800 is UNREAL. SO SO LOADED. IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING.

The women's 800 has a heavy favorite - Raevyn Rogers. Our preview of that event and our take on whether she gets the meet or collegiate records is here:

http://www.letsrun.com/?p=105062