short legs wrote:
smile wrote:And Genzebe broke the Chinese woman's 1500m world record last year...
So if the Chinese women were on drugs, she is running faster than records everyone assumed were doped.
I could take all the drugs in the world and I'm not beating Kiprop. Faulty argument.
I didn't make an argument, I made a factual claim.
If the Chinese women were doped, as many believe, then she is faster than women who were on every drug under the sun.
That's not an argument, that's just a fact. If you want to believe that that isn't a reason to suspect she is on drugs, have at it.
Here's some more factual information. The women's 1500m all time list:
1 3:50.07 Genzebe Dibaba Ethiopia
2 3:50.46 Yunxia Qu China
3 3:50.98 Bo Jiang China
4 3:51.34 Yinglai Lang China
5 3:51.92 Junxia Wang China
6 3:52.47 Tatyana Kazankina Soviet Union
7 3:53.91 Lili Yin China
8 3:53.96 Paula Ivan Romania
9 3:53.97 Lixin Lan China
10 3:54.23 Olga Dvirna Soviet Union
11 3:54.52 Ling Zhang China
12 3:55.07 Yanmei Dong China
13 3:55.30 Hassiba Boulmerka Algeria
14 3:55.33 Sureyya Ayhan Turkey
15 3:55.68 Yuliya Fomenko Russia
16 3:56.05 Sifan Hassan Netherlands
Here is the same list, but with all Chinese & eastern bloc athletes removed, as well as athletes busted for doping removed:
1 3:50.07 Genzebe Dibaba Ethiopia
13 3:55.30 Hassiba Boulmerka Algeria
16 3:56.05 Sifan Hassan Netherlands
So Genzebe is over 5 seconds faster than the first non-Chinese / eastern bloc athlete. Over 1500 meters.
Nothing to see here!