Serious Question: When was the last time Rupp got dropped in a race?

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8 years ago 02/17/2016 9:12pm EST

re: good questions, son

good questions, son wrote:
a lot of people don't like Rupp for whatever reason, but when he (and mostly Salazar I'm assuming) decide to go after a time or a record, Rupp always commits to it. we've seen it over and over, especially in indoor races.
rupp goes after times and records.
that's saying more than just every other USA runner I can think of who is running currently. name them for me and maybe i'll change my tune....
i wish he'd go after the USA 5k record. maybe after the Olympics or in 2017?
He almost ran gebriwet down in that one, great race by both!
CougarMiler wrote:
I'm not talking about just getting out kicked in the last lap (or even getting pulled away from in the last 800) but when was the last time that he just couldn't handle the pace in the middle of a race and fell off of the lead?

I swear that in every DL 5k that Rupp has run since 2013 the talk beforehand has been of him going for the AR, only for him to make no effort to run fast (and even deliberately slowing the pace in the middle of races). There was a race a few years ago, rabbitted by Garrett Heath, in which the announcers spent the first 2k talking about how Salazar had hand-picked Heath to rabbit them; meanwhile Rupp made no effort to follow him.

8 years ago 02/18/2016 4:32am EST

re: El Flaco Pelon Rojo

El Flaco Pelon Rojo wrote:
he is a few years older than Rupp

Kipchoge is only a year and a few months older than Rupp. When he won the world championship (beating El Guerrouj and Bekele) he was only 18.

8 years ago 02/18/2016 5:07am EST

re: Iron chic

They've raced 7x total. 6x at 5k and 1x at 10k. Kipchoge beat Rupp all 6x at 5k and Rupp beat Kipchoge the one time they raced at 10k. Seems that Rupp is the one that gets better with distance.http://more.arrs.net/headToHead

Iron chic wrote:
CougarMiler wrote:
Thanks for the responses. I was just thinking about Rupp and the Rio Marathon and how if it came down to the last mile, you have to like his chances.
Against Eliud Kipchoge I wouldn't.

8 years ago 02/18/2016 10:21am EST

re: Kipchoge vs Rupp

Kipchoge vs Rupp wrote:
They've raced 7x total. 6x at 5k and 1x at 10k. Kipchoge beat Rupp all 6x at 5k and Rupp beat Kipchoge the one time they raced at 10k. Seems that Rupp is the one that gets better with distance.

Well, 1-0 is better than 0-1, but I wouldn't read too much into one race. Also, I don't remember Kipchoge focusing on the 10 the way he did the 5 and now does the marathon. The guy has proven himself to be pretty freaking good over the longest official distance and he has a ton of experience.

8 years ago 02/18/2016 12:05pm EST

re: asdfgh

asdfgh wrote:
I hear announcers say this sort of thing all the time, and I don't buy it. Your 10K PR and mile speed aren't all that relevant at mile 25 in a marathon. A 2:04 marathoner that has never run a sub 4 minute mile and hasn't run below 27:30 could very plausibly have a 4:40 mile left in him. A 3:50, 26:44 guy hanging on for dear life at mile 25, not so much.

Obviously it's not that simple. Kipchoge won London last year over Kipsang largely because of what you're talking about. If Rio is in the 2:07/08 ballpark, I don't see Rupp being plausibly "hanging on for dear life" (assuming weather and all aren't a disaster). But I suspect some of the E, African guys will push it a bit faster largely because they know Rupp would be a real threat at a slower paced race.

8 years ago 02/18/2016 12:13pm EST

re: sponge

sponge wrote:
Kipchoge is the favorite in London. But at least in recent memory, no one has won London and the Olympics in the same year - men or women.
I don't think Rupp gets dropped in Rio in the 10k or the marathon. Doesn't mean he will medal in either, but I think he will like his chances in both if he is there at the end, which is what will matter.
El Flaco Pelon Rojo wrote:
I think Rupp will hang well in Rio, unless someone sacrifices themselves in middle of the race. If Rupp and Kipchoge are among the guys in the last mile, you gotta pick Kipchoge. Rupp will have a crack at a medal in this situation.
My question is this: What are Kipchoge's pre-Olympic plans? Is he running London? Clearly he's the Olympic favorite. But this is the marathon, and he is a few years older than Rupp and the best Ethiopians. It would be cool to get a look at Kipchoge's 2016 form & fitness.

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