Clarinda S. wrote:
I was in death valley during Halloween time. I actually had to bundle up in a thick hoodie and sweat pants and ski-hat for most of the day. It is pretty chilly there except for in june and july.
We here a lot about how low altitude means faster times. I am actually curious about what some of the professionals on here have to say about does being BELOW sea level actually make you faster than being at sea level?
Did everyone fail Science that posted a reply in this thread?
Death Valley is barely below sea level. The Dead Sea is the real deal.
Death Valley isn't the lowest place in the world, in fact it's the 8th lowest.
There is a world outside of the US of A you know!!
I did a 10 mile run near the Salton Sea. I could tell a big difference.
Believer, A wrote:
I did a 10 mile run near the Salton Sea. I could tell a big difference.
Oh god, I biked around the whole thing once, in May/June. Bad idea. Hot and smelly.
You hold track meets at venues where athletes want to go and where spectators will go to watch.
So, even if it were true that Death Valley would produce faster times all around, it would have to be during the summer racing season and you somehow have to fund a facility and attract an event there.
Nothing beats the smell of botulism in the morning. Amazing to think that once upon a time that was a resort town.
DeadSea wrote:
Believer, A wrote:I did a 10 mile run near the Salton Sea. I could tell a big difference.
Oh god, I biked around the whole thing once, in May/June. Bad idea. Hot and smelly.
My dad took us there when I was a kid and had hyped us all up on how great he remembered it being when he was a kid. Needless to say everyone was very disappointed when we got to find the water looking like tar and tons of rotted fish carcasses on the shore.
I went there once on a business trip to Palm Springs. I walked along the shoreline for a while and was fascinated by the texture of the sand/gravel. After about 15 minutes of walking around, I finally examined what I was walking on. It was interesting to find that it was who knows how many feet deep of bleached fish vertebrae.
There is a track in Death Valley,, with a grandstand. Devil's Racetrack.
geo professor wrote:
Dreams to Reality wrote:Because its 100-120 degrees Fahrenheit in Death Valley. Find a place below sea level with no win, zero humidity, and temps around 60 degrees.
only in the summer.
from October thru april, death valley is one of the coldest places in north America.
haven't ever taken a basic geography class, have you?
Um, you're an idiot.
Average winter temps:
November high - 77F
November low - 48F
December high - 65F
December low - 38F
January high - 67F
January low - 40F
February high - 73F
February low - 46F
March high - 82F
March low - 55F
So, stupidass geo professor, Death Valley is one of the warmest places in North America during the winter. Haven't ever taken a basic geography class, have you?
http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/weather.htmbrosjo level geography wrote:
So, stupidass geo professor, Death Valley is one of the warmest places in North America during the winter. Haven't ever taken a basic geography class, have you?
http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/weather.htm
Death Valley doesn't even make the list for warmest places in the contiguous united states during the winter. it is way too far north. basic kindergarten rule of geography- places further south are warmer during winter months. you are welcome for the elementary geography lesson.
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather-Extremes/US/hottest.phpHow many fast races are run in winter?
Completely useless point.
Star wrote:
You hold track meets at venues where athletes want to go and where spectators will go to watch.
So, even if it were true that Death Valley would produce faster times all around, it would have to be during the summer racing season and you somehow have to fund a facility and attract an event there.
Wrong. Ever heard of the 2014 Olympics. Find me 15 people (non-Olympics related) who would have ever gone to or will go to Sochi for real.
Money makes the world turn.
brosjo level geography wrote:
geo professor wrote:only in the summer.
from October thru april, death valley is one of the coldest places in north America.
haven't ever taken a basic geography class, have you?
Um, you're an idiot.
Average winter temps:
November high - 77F
November low - 48F
December high - 65F
December low - 38F
January high - 67F
January low - 40F
February high - 73F
February low - 46F
March high - 82F
March low - 55F
So, stupidass geo professor, Death Valley is one of the warmest places in North America during the winter. Haven't ever taken a basic geography class, have you?
http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/weather.htm
This geo professor hasn't been to Canada.
luv2run wrote:
Ok
1) There is no track there that I know of. Or am I missing one?
2) It is only 86m below sea level (280 ish feet). That is not a lot of difference.
No, but there is a golf course!
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Metric Miler wrote:
How many fast races are run in winter?
Completely useless point.
Im looking at the usatf rulebook, and I see no rules against scheduling a world record time trial during the winter. Also, the only month that death valley would even have a heat effect on the body is probably july. Not sure why everyone is acting like death valley is heck on earth. there is zero humidity there and running is easy and you never sweat. This is exactly why Laredo Texas always has been and always will be SCIENTIFICALLY CLASSIFIED as the hottest place on earth. it is far south, yet too far inland to get breezy from the ocean, plus its low altitude and humid. Laredo never cools down.....ever. If you do more research you will see that Laredo has broken tons of heat records that Death Valley has not. Its like a hair dryer blowing in your face all day and night 365 days per year. When Donald trump visited Laredo, he wouldn't even get out of his limousine it was so hot there.
Death Valley is just good ole dry heat on SOME summer afternoons. not really classified as a hot place in general.
one more thing, look at the time and place that alan webb scheduled his 346 mile. it was unorthodox. death valley is no mor eunorthodox than that, and many people would travel there to see world record run there.
Are you really that dense? For a start, reading the USATF rule book isn't going to give you any useful information; I can't remember the last time an American threatened a distance world record. Who cares what the US track and field rule book says about world records?
Secondly, if you knew anything about the sport of athletics, you would remember it is a summer sport. The fastest times are run in the summer because that is when the major competitions are held. Athletes care about medals and winning important races.
Maybe if you reinvented the sport so that the fastest times of the year were more important then you may have a point. But it is beyond theoretical so it is pointless. Many top athletes pass on opportunities to run at fast meets such as Monaco for no reason other than it doesn't fit in their schedule: it's not important.
Death Valley is also SCIENTIFICALLY CLASSIFIED as the hottest place on Earth. Highest recorded air temp, highest recorded ground temp, and one of the hottest annual average high temps in the world of 91.4 (vs 85.1 for Laredo). From April to October the average high temp in Death Valley is over 90; over 100 from May to September. Easy place to run in definitely; you'd never sweat indeed.