Holy shit! Why didn't you tell us about this earlier?!
Holy shit! Why didn't you tell us about this earlier?!
A small entry fee is a perfectly reasonable way to limit the lottery to only serious entrants and harms no one against their will.
But, they must stop this horrible non-profit's activity so they can continue running their own corrupt lottery schemes like the Powerball. I love our government!
Finally, Finally
I knew this was coming after Ironman was investigate by the DOJ for similar practices.
The plaintiffs seek $10.56 million of damages, or twice the estimated amount collected from several hundred thousand runners who from 2010 to 2015 paid $11 nonrefundable fees to try to qualify for the marathon.
Liberalism = a mental disorder wrote:
A small entry fee is a perfectly reasonable way to limit the lottery to only serious entrants and harms no one against their will.
But, they must stop this horrible non-profit's activity so they can continue running their own corrupt lottery schemes like the Powerball. I love our government!
Great post.
Matt and charles. Easy solution. Run fast enough to get a time qualifier and you will it have to worry about the lottery.
Slow people need to stop being so butt hurt about not getting into races. NYC has auto-qualifying times.
Beat me to it....
granted, a fast enough time will allow somebody to bypass the lottery but the time qualifier won't be able to bypass the $11 lottery fee.
Not being sued by the government.
Is the admissions fee for applying to an elite university in a similar category?
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.
I think what this will come down to is if NYRR can reasonably demonstrate that the costs to run the lottery are close to the money they take in through it.
I believe they have around 200k applicants, so $2,000,000 coming in through the lottery.
What expenses do they have:
1. Credit Card transaction cost - around 2%
2. IT infrastructure - they have that anyway and the software should be good to go from last year
3. the Drawing itself - obviously for the most part software again that's already there, but then they sometimes invite running celebrities - are they paying them $$$ ?
I just don't see their cost for the lottery exceeding $1 per person.
FIRE MARY WITTENBERG!!!
She's a fraud, she's completely useless
Not really that great since its premise isn't correct. People that aren't serious won't give their credit card number that would automatically withdrawn $200 if they are accepted.
rojo wrote:
Liberalism = a mental disorder wrote:A small entry fee is a perfectly reasonable way to limit the lottery to only serious entrants and harms no one against their will.
But, they must stop this horrible non-profit's activity so they can continue running their own corrupt lottery schemes like the Powerball. I love our government!
Great post.
Not really that great since its premise isn't correct. People that aren't serious won't give their credit card number that would automatically withdrawn $200 if they are accepted.
Mary left NYRR last year
Chris Weller, NYRR spokesperson: "Our entry process for the marathon is compliant with the law."
Well, NY State law outlaws any "lottery or sale of lottery tickets, pool-selling, book-making, or any other kind of gambling, except lotteries operated by the state."
Seems to me like charging people a non-refundable $11 (or whatever it is) fee for the right to win entry into the marathon is gambling. Then again, NYRR is probably giving so much money to the state legislature that this case will be dismissed.
I hate NYRR. They have a monopoly on CP races, overcharge for everything, and claim to be a non-profit yet just sold some of the most expensive real estate in the city. Non-profit my ass.
After Fred died, the corporate greed of people like Wittenberg really took off and turned the NYRRC into another phony "non profit" organization. Losers, every last one of them.
You guys forget FDNY/NYPD/Santition blackmails NYRR for overtime pay and free perks. NYPD also extracts bribes from Mom & Pop shops, cab drivers, hookers, meth dealers, etc. It's a good way to make a living being in FDNY/NYPD/Sanitation.